Time Warner Cable Internet

So my internet connection at home has been out for the last two days. Last night I spent over an hour on the phone with a series of technicians trying to trouble shoot the problem. Finally, after a transfer to a third technician and a wait on hold of over 20 minutes, I was told that there is an air conditioning outage at the local Time Warner server, and the entire area served by that server location was out of service.

Some questions.

  1. Why didn’t the FIRST person I spoke with, after taking my zip code, home address, mother’s maiden name, blood type and eye color, figure out that the service was out in my area?

  2. Why didn’t the SECOND person I spoke with, after taking my zip code, home address, mother’s maiden name, blood type and eye color, AGAIN, figure out that the service was out in my area?

  3. Why did I have to wait 20 minutes on hold, to get to a THIRD person, who, for the THIRD TIME needed to get my zip code, home address, mother’s maiden name, blood type and eye color, to find out that there was a service outage in my area?

  4. Are they lying about the air-conditioning? This article suggests that there are massive problems with Time Warner system wide, especially in Los Angeles. http://www.buffalonews.com/145/story/66516.html

Fuckers.

Way back when, I had a similar problem with AOL dialup at my dad’s house (he insisted on AOL, sadly). The internet went out, I called, I spent probably 45 minutes on hold then another hour on the phone with the non-American technician, going over everything I’ve already done 10 times (have you turned off your computer? How about now? One more time?).

That guy couldn’t do anything. So I called back. Lather, rinse, and repeat four times. Every single time, I’d try to explain everything that I had already done and every single time, the technician (clearly reading from a script) would tell me to turn off my computer and follow the exact same steps I’d now done more times than I could count.

Finally, on the fifth time I called, I said, “Look, I’m not trying to be one of those people- but can I please speak to a technician in the United States?” I was eventually transferred. No hold at all, someone immediately came on the line. The guy looked something up and said, “Oh, service is out in your area. It’ll be out for the next three days. I’m sorry about that.”

Now, he may have been lying, but for God’s sake- was that really so hard?

And on edit: I should note that two of the four Indian (I assume they were Indian, since they took err jeyobs ;)) techs insisted that my computer (relatively new system) was simply out of date and unable to work well with the super high tech AOL software. I was actually told I should go out and buy a new computer just to use AOL.

It’s better than when it was Adelphia. Not a lot better, but at least somewhat.

And purely for your viewing pleasure, I present you with a link. :slight_smile:

Sailboat

Ah yes, cable Internet.

'round these parts if you want cable anything, you have to go through Charter Communications. When my parents first got cable Internet about 6 years ago, it was through AT&T @ Home. Now, AT&T did us proud. They were reliable, fast, cheap, and had excellent customer service. This all, of course, explains why they went bankrupt. :smack:

So Charter bought them out and the Big Switch was to happen at Midnight, January 1st.

Midnight, January 1st rolls around and suddenly we have no Internet connection. We make calls and complain. For two weeks, no Internet. Finally they manage to fix it because finally, we managed to get a not-incompetant tech.

Flash forward a few years. Now both the cable television and cable Internet are doing this weird thing where they just stop working occasionally, for no reason that we can discern. For TWO MONTHS we pester Charter about this. Each time the tech comes out and insists it has to be our computer (“But how do you explain the TV going out as well?” “Durrrrr drool”) that was either infected with spyware (possible, even likely, but I was in charge of security for that computer and I did a pretty damn good job of it) or out of date (very unlikely, we upgraded the thing every year or so - my dad knows the owner of a local computer shop and gets stuff cheap).

Finally, after two months of this bullshit, we get a tech who actually knows what he’s doing. We disassemble the computer area, which is blocking the source for the cable. This takes about 30 minutes because our computer area is extensive. Anyway, Cable Guy goes over and pulls the line out of the wall. A rat had partially chewed through the cable.

Yeah. So Fuck Time Warner, and Fuck Charter Communications.

Funny thing, too, is that Charter is in a lot of places. Every time I talk to someone who has it goes “Can you believe how much they fucking suck?” My parents finally cashed out the other day and got satellite, DSL and phone through AT&T. The Charter guy came to get the cable box and modem, and said “Can you believe how bad Charter sucks?”

~Tasha

FWIW, I had Time Warner’s cable TV and internet service in NY for about four years, and never once had a problem with it. It was rad.

Since I moved to Brooklyn I now have Cablevision’s service, and it has also been excellent.

I had Time-Warner and loved it.

Now I have Comcast and it sucks so much that “sucks” is far too mild a term.

-Joe

Well, I know nothing about Time Warner Cable Internet, but speaking as a guy who used to answer calls like yours, I can speculate on a couple of reasons.

  1. It’s possible that when you called first, that you reached a call center in the same area as you.

  2. It’s possible that the technicians you spoke to originally didn’t actually work for Time Warner (ie an outsourcing company that contracts with Time Warner like this ).

  3. It’s possible that you did in fact reach a call center in your area, but the cause of the outage had yet to be determined.

In each of those cases, communication between those who know what’s happened and those fielding the calls from the field is slow to non-existent. The call center (and its agents) are going to know something is broken because call volume is going to spike. Calls in queue are going to go from none to dozens and beyond in a heartbeat.

Once that happens, until the cause of the outage is determined, the agents on the phone have to troubleshoot as usual. They’ll also be trying to determine what nodes are affected. Their supervisors will be gathering data from them and communicating that to the NOC, who’ll be dispatching an engineer to the affected head end. Also, besides taking calls from the outage customers, the agents are likely to be in other call queues taking sales calls, billing calls, video service calls. Plus, call volume may reach a point, that, in order to maintain service levels, some of the calls may be routed to other call centers and/or other queues manned by agents with lesser or no training.

For the first half-hour to hour of the outage, the agents will take the calls, troubleshoot and schedule service appointments. After they reach a saturation point with appointments and have a better idea of which customers may be affected, then they will dispense with the time consuming troubleshooting steps and inform the callers of the possible outage (or definite outage, if it’s been determined).

Lastly, once the outage cause has been determined, that information is slow to get back to the agents on the call floor.

Since we’re also ragging on Comcast, I’ll add mine. We had to get a new modem from them last year, because we were still using the original they gave us in 1999. We brought home a Playskool- looking box and power adapter. Connect it up, plug it in, and the power adapter goes up in a puff of acrid smoke. They gave us an adapter with a) the wrong voltage, b) the wrong amperage, and c) the wrong polarity. Call them up. The response: “Well, have you checked your plugs?” I hung up. My wife went into the office the next day and got another modem, because she is unlikely to give them a piece of her mind. Then I had to call them up again to get the modem to bypass wanting to use a proprietary, IE-based homepage on our computers before it would do anything. I don’t want your stupid home page, and I refuse to open up IE under any circumstances. I just want the same freakin’ service we’ve been getting for seven years, as crappy as it often is.

Now we have to go another round with them, because our cable signal is being dropped intermittently. It happens from 10 to 40 times a day, when we’re home. It went out 16 times this morning. I don’t know how often it disappears when we’re not home, or asleep. If I unplug and replug the modem power jack, it comes back on. But I keep having to do this! I dread having to call customer service, because I’ve never got a satisfactory explanation for any of our connection problems from anyone there, ever. You have to wonder where they find these people to put on the phones…

I have Time Warner Cable Internet, aka RoadRunner, and it’s usually reliable. However, occasionally it goes through schizophrenic periods where it will just suddenly quit working. Then I’d have to go physically disconnect the router and restart my computer. Usually that fixed the problem but it was a pain. After about a week of increasingly frequent outages, I finally called RR Service. They transferred me to a guy who checked my router (have no idea how he did it) and said everything appeared to be working fine. He suggested that it could be my wireless router and recommended next time I plug my computer directly into the router and see if I could connect. If I could it was my wireless router’s fault; if I couldn’t then they’d go on to Step B.

Since then, I haven’t had any trouble. Have no idea why.

Just an aside, this happened to my parents at one point, after they got a new modem. Apparently the new modem fried something in the wall.

~Tasha

Ditto this. This happened to me a few years ago and they eventually gave me a brand new modem, which solved the problem. In fact, if my intermittent outage problem continues, if I rule out an issue with my wireless router, I’ll be calling to demand a new modem. If they refuse, ask them for a credit your account each time you you get a service failure.

Oh, I pity you. Charter is headquartered in St. Louis and the Post-Dispatch is constantly printing horror stories from customers. In fact, their consumer watchdog columnist has been going to town on Charter lately:

A former cable company call center rep says: “We lie” to customers who ask when installer will arrive

The cable company St. Louis loves to hate (about Charter getting a warning from the Better Business Bureau)

Here in KC, we have an independent cable company called Everest. They only serve a few suburbs and part of the city, but they’re responsive when called and have techs who are actually in the area. So far, my service has been great. I’m sure they’ll be bought by Comcast any day now.

I have this problem too, but only when I try to upload a batch of photos to Picasa Web Albums. Only.
The work around for me is to go into the router settings and reset it. I used to power down and bring everything back up but this way is easier and much quicker. No restarts needed. No one from RR has any idea why this only happens when I upload to web albums. :rolleyes:

So bypass your router. Does the issue persist? If so, it could be either a computer issue or a RR issue… if not, it’s your router causing the problem.

Not sure why this is a :rolleyes: for you…

I feel your pain. I’ve been having similar problems with my cable internet (Virgin Media - formerly NTL) at home - intermittent disconnection and loss of service - sometimes for hours at a time, on average, only about 60% uptime and often down for many hours, even days at a time. I’ve had to go through numerous cycles of calling tech support, waiting on hold for half an hour, to finally speak with some exported call centre, where it seemed to be the first time I’d ever described the problem to them - so I’d have to go through all the basic diagnostic steps again (‘could you try turning off the modem, waiting 30 seconds, then turning it back on again?’), every time, even though I had given them my account reference details and mentioned the previous calls.

It also took upwards of 10 days lead time on an engineer visit, which would have to take place during the working day, so I’d have to take a whole afternoon off and when the engineer arrived, the connection would invariably happen to be working just fine, so he’d twiddle with the wire, declare that it all seems OK now, close the case and leave. Twenty minutes after the engineer would leave, the thing would start going wrong again, but it was impossible to call him back, I had to go through the whole tech support process again and describe it all over from scratch.

After six weeks of this, and being told that the earliest engineer visit available was 20 days hence, I just asked them to close the account - they had to transfer me to someone else in Customer Care, with 20 minutes additional on-hold time.

The sickest thing about all of it is that the account termination process takes 30 days - taking me into another billing period - I protested that it was completely unfair to bill me any more for a service that I was terminating because it just doesn’t work. The response was that they couldn’t do anything about that and that if I wanted a credit, I’d have to talk to tech support.

So I called Tech support (another half hour on hold), who said they couldn’t credit my account, that would be Customer Care! At this point, I started shouting - it was Customer Care who sent me here! The tech support operative said he’d transfer me directly to the right department and put me through to a young lady who was very civil, but couldn’t help me because she only dealt with telephone accounts, and mine was a cable internet account, so she said she’d transfer me to the right place, but she transferred me to a line that just gave me a busy signal.

So I tried contacting them by email - there was no contact address anywhere on their site - only a web form, so I filled this in, but the promised response within seven days never showed up.

I’ve cancelled my direct debit. Fuck 'em - they’ll try to bill me and it won’t work, whereupon they’ll write me a shitty letter demanding the money. By my reckoning, they owe me money - they’re supposed to credit my account if I experience loss of connection for more than 24 hours - and one time, it was out for a whole week, plus I probably ought to tot up all the money I’ve spent on telephone calls to their call centre.

The only reason It’s taken me this long to give up and switch to a different company is that I’ve also got to switch technologies - moving from cable to DSL, meaning I have to buy new hardware. I should have cut my losses and done this much sooner.

I used to work for an answering service for Time Warner…the local branch, anyway.
We would field the calls when they came in, paging the on-call tech or leaving a message for the office for the customer.
You would not believe all the calls we got complaining of the service. Cable and internet service was horrid, according to them.
We always dreaded when there would be an outage, because we would get calls from (Mostly highly irate) customers for hours on end…but that was our job, and we could not actually help anyone at all.
We just were instructed to page the tech on-call three times, and/or leave ONE message for the office, to pick up in the morning when they opened. Unreal.

Edited because I forgot how to spell.

Hey, I didn’t realize you were in KC these days. Welcome!

I’ve a co-worker who has Everest, and he reports the same good news about the company. Otherwise, for cable, the rest of us in KC have to deal with either Time Warner or Comcast. I’ve had both (after having moved from one metro area city to another), and while there was an occasional connection blip for Time Warner, it was mostly pretty good. Comcast, though, has been rock solid. Admittedly, I pay for one of their “business” connections (higher speeds for both up and down; static IPs), so the one time I had to contact their tech department, I got to talk to people who actually knew what they were doing. So, I’ve no complaints about Comcast so far.

It’s a rolleyes because it only happens in a very specific situation (uploading to web-albums) and the tech from RR hadn’t heard of an issue like this, that’s whyfore the rolleyes.
Doesn’t happen often enough to make any changes yet. If I bypass the router then I’ve lost the connectivity on the other machines in the house. Sure, I could test this one machine by bypassing temporarily, then again it doesn’t happen every time I upload so I may not even have the problem when I test.

I’m thinking it’s gotta be a router issue since the reset fixes it every time it does happen.

One of my friends down in Dallas has Time Warner. It always cuts on on her. She’ll eventually get back online and send a lot of “grrr argh #@@!” over AIM.

I have Mediacom internet and cable here in Columbia, MO. I hate it! We pay a bunch extra for premium channels (HBO etc) and they constantly scramble! Trying to watch Entourage or a movie is a joke - we miss 1/4 of the dialogue! And our internet randomly fucks up - for a two week span it would go out every day at like 3pm - when I get home from class. Now it’s being so fucking slow. This is actually the only site that loads somewhat decently. Facebook, a site that always loads instantly for me, takes five minutes to come up. This started last night when I had to do homework online too, of course. Took for fucking ever!