A sad encounter with an old man.

My gf and I often like to visit the Barnes and Noble that’s nearby, to drink coffee and read. Throughout the course of our times there, we’ve met and talked with lots of interesting people. It seems like bookstores attract a wide, wide variety of people. This thread is about one such meeting.

We were at B&N last week and I was browsing the magazine aisle looking for The Atlantic when I ran into an older man. He made eye contact with me, then quipped, “Hey, do you mind if I use that thing for a while?” (He was referring to my wheelchair). I laughed and said, “I would but I kinda need it myself”. He then took out an index card from his pocket and put it in my face. “These are all the medical conditions I suffer from”, he said. I did not recognize any of the conditions but that’s probably because he had the jargon-y official scientific names written down.

He proceeded to completely open up to me about his life (I suspect my wheelchair gives me a certain “he’s safe” vibe) and his struggles. He told me he was 80 years old, lived alone and had no friends or family anywhere. He described the physical struggles he has, which include an inability to remain standing and walking for more than 5-10 minutes at a time. He also told me he cannot use any type of cane or walker because he has a condition that is very similar to carpal tunnel, only much more severe (I can’t recall the name).

I glanced at his hands and saw grossly over-grown fingernails. He was simply unable to use nail clippers. He said over and over, “I need help getting help”. He apparently falls at home and has no one to care for him. He’s also very hard of hearing and has lots of issues simply acquiring the appropriate hearing aides. He triggered a great deal of empathy from me. This man was not someone who should be living alone. He was falling apart, physically and mentally. But he was the sweetest, nicest guy you could imagine.

To me, this seemed like a tragedy waiting to happen. I asked him if he’d like to exchange phone numbers, simply so he had a resource to turn to in an emergency. His reply, sadly, was that due to his hearing difficulties as well as the problems with his hands he was unable to communicate via phone. I tried asking him if he’d ever heard or used the TTY system but that conversation was a failure. He kept thinking I was saying things other than what I actually said, and it soon became apparent that it was a futile effort. So what I ended up doing is taking a piece of scrap paper and writing (in big letters) all the pertinent info re TTY. I also wrote my number down, just in case.

The encounter with this man ended when he mistakenly thought he saw impatience or irritation in my face. “If I’m bothering you, I will go. I’m sorry.” I could not convince him otherwise and a minute later, he just shuffled off. But the encounter stuck with me. This man had fallen thru the cracks in society. He had no support, socially, personally, nothing. And he was clearly unable to care for himself properly. It was so sad. It shouldn’t be this way for him but it is. Some people suffer all in silence and for all you know, the person next to you in public has just experienced, or is experiencing, a tragedy.

Well, crap. That sucks. Maybe you’ll see him again and can get his information. Maybe the store employees even know it, or his schedule, if he’s there often. It seems like he needs to get plugged into some senior programs, like Meals on Wheels, or referred to the neighborhood senior center, which could help him get connected with resources.

Good of you to notice and be willing to help.

It sounds like he could benefit from 'round the clock care, like a nursing facility. I don’t know what options there are but I agree, I hope he returns and can connected with some help. It says something remarkable about him that despite all his struggles he’s still getting out to Barnes and Noble and socializing with people.

It’s true, you never have any clue about the stories of the strangers around you. It’s good when you can have those moments and see them as more than strangers.

I keep bags of non-perishable food in my car to give to the people who beg for money on the medians. There are a few people I see pretty frequently, and they know my car. I provide them with probably three meals a week. I often feels like asking them if they would like to go sit down in a restaurant with me and have a really good meal. I don’t know what kind of social support they have if they have to beg for money.

On the other hand, I’m not rich, and while I do have the ability to help them with things like getting VR or SSDI if they are eligible, and to apply for section 8 housing, and a lot of other things, I don’t have the time. When my son is a little older, I might, but right now, I don’t have the ability to give them any more help if they ask for it. I also can’t have any homeless people sleeping on my couch (I could at one point in my life and did, albeit, they were never complete strangers-- relative strangers, but there’d usually be some connection to a friend, or else they’d have been at the same corner for more than a year, and I’d have given them food, and then their shelter would close for a health code violation, and they’d need a place to go till it reopened). This was all when I was single, though.

Sometimes there’s only so much you can do, and sometimes listening helps a lot.

And I don’t mean to be unfeeling, but sometimes the stories you are told have little resemblance to reality.

For some reason I thought this would be related to the polygamy thread…glad it wasn’t

Old men like that are the way they are and will never change.

You did what you could… Note you can lead a horse to water, but not make it drink. Not much more you can do than offer to help. Unfortunately these people just don’t take help. The word is “stubborn”!

“His reply, sadly, was that due to his hearing difficulties as well as the problems with his hands he was unable to communicate via phone.”

I find it difficult to believe that he can communicate in person but not on the phone (where you can just turn up the volume). And they have the phones with the big buttons.

Say what, now?

I have severe hearing loss. I wear a hearing aid in my left canal, my right ear is not worth addressing. I do way better in person than over the phone. Telephones can introduce feedback and distortion.

What volume are you suggesting he “turn up”? My hearing aid is state of the art, but it is at max all the time, as is my phone.

An index card with a bunch of unrecognizable jargon. He walks up to you in the mall and tells you why he can’t really walk much and why he has no cane (it would have been interesting to hear him explain why he didn’t have a powered chair). He dismisses all assistance toward communication and friendship. He abruptly leaves.

Sorry to be cynical, but I think there’s a good chance he was expecting you to offer him money and gave up when you did not.

My dad uses his cell on speaker all the time, because he can’t hear the little one that’s held to the ear. He spent some time at the cell phone store, trying them all out in order to find the loudest one. I suspect, though, that this fella doesn’t have a cell, just a landline, and may be in need of a landline phone that has a volume control that makes the handset loud enough, or a speaker option. I know they used to make them, marketed to older people, maybe they’re still available for cheap. If so, maybe **Ambivalid **could pick one up to keep in the car in case he sees this guy again.

Who wrote the index card?
This guy can write, but not use nail clippers?

he is lucid enough to dirve(?) himself to a bookstore, but not to understand the concept of TTY ?

I’d say that he hasn’t “fallen” through: He has intentionally jumped down into the cracks, and intentionally refuses to let anyone help him.

Or else, as Tom suggested 2 posts upthread–he was just panhandling you, because you looked like an easy mark.

(missed the edit window) Mods—please correct the typo “dirve” to “drive”
And then delete this post :slight_smile:

He doesn’t drive. I don’t know how he got to the store or anything else but he told us that he doesn’t drive. I think he mentioned the bus but I may be misremembering.

And please pay attention! He was in no way un-lucid. He simply could not hear what I was saying to him. And he absolutely was not panhandling in any way, in fact, he resisted anything from me.

ETA: I assumed he had someone else write these things down, just so he could do exactly what he did with them with me.

I can assure you this was not the case.

To answer this a little more fully, let me explain this a little better. He did not walk up to me, I came upon him already standing (with a hand on the bookshelf) in front of the magazines I wanted to browse. It was only after a minute of standing right next to me that he said anything. And honestly, he seemed like he was simply glad for someone to listen to him. He was droning on about hearing aides for about 20 minutes. He did not abruptly leave either, it was only when he thought I gave my gf an impatient look and interpreted it as a sign he had worn out his welcome. Nowhere in any of our conversations did you mention financial difficulty of any kind.

:D:D

*Nowhere in any of our conversations did he mention financial difficulty of any kind. /typo

Segway?

My grandmother lipreads like nobody’s business; by the time her daughters convinced her to get her hearing checked she’d had tinnitus for years and was above 60% loss in one ear, over 90% in the other. That was in 2010, now her hearing is worse. Turning up the volume wouldn’t do anything; if you want her to understand what you’re saying, you have to make sure you’re looking straight at her.