Who the fuck do you think you are? We don’t exist just to help you, you dense fucking jack ass. Things are done here a certain way and they have been for years and we’re not about to change for you. If you don’t like it, find somewhere else to play. You are the most self absorbed, willfully ignorant person I have encountered in years.
Your last post showed great improvement, andrew. My suggestion along with the others you’ve gotten recently would be to lay off the emphasis – indeed any mention at all – of begging. I know that to you it’s likely just your way of stressing the intensity of your desire, but to others it can appear unseemly and to make you look weak.
Regards,
SA
Oh! Well, fuck you, too, then. And, as it is my goal to better live with everyone I encounter, let me also send out a hearty ‘fuck you’ to whoever reads this, too. Wouldn’t want to be rude.
Pssst. This would be a real good time to request a mod close this thread.
I recommend you knock this habit off, unless you want every single response to start with “Fuck you, Andrew, and I mean that as a vent to a person I like…”
Graping mine.
Dude, wrap your mind around the fact that dopers are not a monolithic entitity. We’re not a mob. There are as many differing view points and opinions as there are individuals. Its not about andrew vs the dope, its andrew vs a few people and you’re slamming everyone else with your generalistic comments. Knock it off.
Oh no, of course you don’t need to be fat to find that offensive. I just said fat people might find it insulting. I thought that andrew agreed that he shouldn’t be so insulting. (offensive can be even more subjective than insulting, I think). I mean, I’m not really offended or insulted, though. I’m more disgusted. Come to think of it, I’m also embarrased in the way you get embarrased for someone else when you see them making an ass of themselves. I think that’s why I mentioned it.
Oh, but this thread isn’t about my feelings, though, is it?
Andrew, you have mentioned adding advice to your document several times, and offered to email it to anyone who wants to see it, as though that would prove to us that you have learned something. It would be better to demonstrate that you have learned. In the thread that resulted in your vacation from this message board, Giraffe, in full moderator mode, offered this bit of advice:
What exit? (the poster formerly known as jrfranchi, and an unusually polite fellow) offered quite a bit of advice, which included this:
You have been around for a while, and there no doubt that you are fully aware of what can happen to the OP in a Pit thread. What did you think was going to happen when you opened this thread?
Here’s my constructive advice. You’re a curious guy with wide-ranging interests. When a question pops into your head, think about it for a while. Spend some time surfing the web for informative sites. Often these sites will contain the answer to your question, but you can’t ask a site a question, usually. You have to read and dig, do some work. Sometimes, you won’t find the answer to your question, but you will better informed after the effort. Once you’ve done that, you might want to do a search on SDMB for your topic, to see if your question has been asked and answered in a previous thread. Finally, carefully compose your question, check the spelling, grammar, et cetera, then post it as a thread in GQ. Remember that all of your best intentions and efforts may still attract snark. Resolve yourself to ignore it.
Andrew, could you try to explain why you think we should all give you constant constructive criticism, and gently point out the errors of your ways, and fully agree with you that nothing is ever fully your fault, and hold your hand while leading you through posting?
I lurked for a long time before I began posting, and I don’t ever recall anyone demanding this sort of help with posting before. Why do you think you deserve this?
Perhaps ask yourself what you hope to gain from posting here. Many of us enjoy the tone of the board; it’s a place to read fun and snarky posts without the overuse of smilies and coloured fonts and giant avatars. But you seem to dislike the tone. Many people enjoy having their ignorance fought, but you don’t like to have your mistakes pointed out, or else it has to be done in such a way that it doesn’t damage your self-esteem.
To sum it up for you:
- Why do you feel you deserve this extra help from us?
- What do you want to get out of posting here?
I’m not asking you to answer this here, just think about it.
You are forgetting (or not applying) the “remember, you can’t control a thread” advice.
I think everyone deserves this ‘extra help’ from you- and by ‘extra help’ I mean CCs that let them know clearly what needs to change, instead of making them wade through page after page of snarky comments and shitty behavior to get to it. I think everyone deserves to be able to discuss issues intelligently without being jumped on instead.
You say I don’t like having my mistakes pointed out?!!! I have an entire document of things I had to learn from my mistakes! You say that it’s because I don’t want my mistakes pointed out in a way that hurts my feelings, but here’s the thing- snarky comments like:
“You are not melting down because you were never solid in the first place. You are completely liquid already. You’re more liquid than Bill Gates’s checking account. You’re more melted than a hosed-down witch. You’re more liquid than a toilet bowl at a Mexican restaurant. You exist on the side of the phase transition line where can be found no stones, no trees, no solid objects of any kind. You are the towers of Chernobyl, you are an ice cube on the Devil’s desktop, you are an ingot in a blast furnace, you are a gallon of latex splashing freely into a dildo mold. If you were any more fluid, you would dissipate like Keyser Soze wafting out of a customs agent’s office.”
don’t tell me a god-damned thing! But CCs like:
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- When not in the Pit, if someone insults you, just hit the report button. If that person really pisses you off somehow, Pit them.*
tell me exactly what I need to know!!!
Are you making this comment- that I don’t like my mistakes pointed out- based on the fact that I disagreed with some of the CCs? Or because I was angry with the holy tone you guys took after the shitty tone you had before? Well? I’d like a direct answer on this question, please.
And as for what I’d like to get out of being here- I’d like to ask questions, get answers, answer questions, learn things, and participate in discussions on a wide range of great topics.
Many people have asked why I don’t post nearly as much in others threads yet have started so many of my own- I’ll tell you why, but you may not believe me and it is strange I admit:
I have a temporary routine where I post threads and check back on them a week later. I very much want to start posting in a lot of other people’s threads, but first I have to start what I call my Routine, which is a complex daily schedule of what I’ll be doing from day to day. This will occur weeks or months from now, but it will occur. Browsing SD and posting in others threads is something that is part of my Routine plan; starting my threads and getting answers was a temporary thing, and if I hadn’t made the HUGE mistake of thinking I could post 15 in one night because I’d been away for a month, I’d be okay in this respect, really!
Feydeau, to address your post against the call not to- I understand why you think I could be gay, because there is plenty of evidence for it from my posts: deragatory terms for women that I used once in some Pit threads; ignorance of the female anatomy; etc. etc. However, as if it’s important, I assure you I’m not- I want to have a relationship with a woman, and I will be working with my counselor to take baby steps towards one.
That brings me to the next part of your post- autism? I looked it up on Wikipedia (sorry, I use that a lot). Some of it- but not much- is similar to psychological stuff I have, sure. But there are a lot of other psychological things that I know I have, and I don’t want to share those just yet with the board for privacy reasons. I am seeing a counselor, and am open with him.
As for needing to get out more, I agree- but the fact is, that I don’t ‘party’ anymore, and the only groups I want to join are ones that are all about the sharing of knowledge and searching for truth. Can you guys reccomend some? I know that sounds like some geeky Captain America bs, but the fact is that, despite what it seems, I am very mature mentally (or so I think…)
That brings me to drug use- NO. I don’t drink alcohol, and have sworn to never do so again, because of personal reasons. I don’t do any other substances, and never will, although I am taking prescription medicines (also personal).
And as to my major- unsure. I’m behind where I should be in schooling, but I am in school.
What was the allegedly offensive signature? I presume he’s changed it since this post, since the one he has now doesn’t seem too bad. (Something about smoking.)
Once there was a boy named andrew who came to a party with a gun in his pocket. He thought it would be a fun way to get people’s attention, and to make people like him. Whether they wanted to or not. So the first thing he does, he walks in the door of the party, and takes the gun out of his pocket and waves it around, going “Woohoo, Ah’m a cowboy! Woohoo!” People looked at him funny; some of them, the less mature, even pointed and laughed. Andrew, bewildered, thought maybe the people didn’t “get” it. So he waved the gun around some more, and tried “Yahooooooo!” with a little yodel as an icebreaker. Crickets, blank stares, mostly, with the exception of a few partygoers who thought THEY were the life of the party, and who added hooting and razzberries to their pointing and laughing. Andrew fired a few rounds into the ceiling. The grownups took notice at this point, and said, “Andrew, look, this isn’t that kind of party. Why don’t you go outside for a while, cool off, gather your thoughts, and then come back in again as if nothing had happened. We’ll just start all over, K?” So Andrew goes outside, for the minimum time required, tapping his foot impatiently. When a grownup came back to the door to invite Andrew back in, Andrew brushed past him before the door was all the way open, emptied his gun into the ceiling, and shouted “Yippee ki-yi-yay, Motherfuckers!” At this point, pretty much everyone at the party (except for the pointers and laughers, but you find that type in every crowd) put down their drinks, gathered around Andrew, and devoted all of their energies into trying to convince him that this just wasn’t that kind of party. Andrew tried to explain how, Yeah but, it is too. The others tried, and tried and tried and tried, to help Andrew understand just what kind of party this really was, and that maybe if he put the gun away and picked up a cocktail, and wandered around the room until he found a conversation that interesed him, then maybe he would find a way to fit in better. Andrew said, “Well, OK, whatever. I still say it’s that other kind of party.” And as he grudgingly lowered the gun, and was putting it in his pocket, he shot himself in the foot.
The end. Probably.
andrewdt85
I did read your list, I think it has a good collection of sound advise. It sounds like you are already doing better.
I know I keep actual cursing to a minimal, it rarely makes anyone look more intelligent except for occasional humorous uses. So very sound advise from Leviosaurus.
Reread Crotalus’s post it is very well thought out with some great advise, you said you use Wiki and from Wiki there is usually links to more detailed information. Fighting ignorance is fun and great but we should start with ourselves.
BTW: Thank you for the kind words Crotalus. As usual your post is insightful.
Jim
Yep, I just changed it to another one that I was thinking of changing to anyways, and I came in here to show it off. It’s funny- you say this one’s about smoking, and my previous one was a quote from smoking bandit :D.
andrewdt85, you also need to stop whining, “Don’t pick on me!” You seem very eager and ready to sling out shit against others. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out. Playing the martyr is very annoying and turns people off.
You also come across as very selfish. You keep telling us what WE need to do for you. Sorry, hon, it doesn’t work that way. In many of your threads, such as the gabbing one, you go on and on about how much these people annoy you, and how it affects you, and YOU YOU YOU. Stop the “me me me” crap.
You need to accept that there are some things that you can’t change. You can’t just post a thread and expect to come right back to it a week later. This place moves daily. If you can’t keep up with that, that’s unfortunate, but just the way things work.
This place is, was, and always will be snarky. That’s just how it is. You can’t change it. If you can’t handle some ribbing, then this may not be the place for you.
As for “no one gives me useful advice”-that’s bullshit. People have given it to you, not just in this thread, but before your suspension. You seem to want us to be very general and hold your hand. Again, nope, not gonna happen.
And finally, stop expecting people to change their opinions of you overnight. You are the one who needs to make the effort, and it’s going to take a while. And even then, not everyone is going to like you. That’s life, kiddo.
And since there were several posts I didn’t get to read, lissener’s fable is excellent advice.
Here’s the thing- I never did anything here to impress others. My actions were never done to ‘show off’ or ‘make waves’- there’s nothing I can say that will convince you of that, because all of you have in your mind the memetic idea of a stupid young man who needs to stand out by acting crass. And there’s nothing I can do to sway any of you, no matter what.
Does anyone believe me?
Doing things to impress upon others is what I refer to as Non-Real Happiness; and I never, ever do it. You notice how my posts don’t contain the funny stories about cowboys and ice on the devil’s desk and such? That’s cause I’m not here to impress people, because impressing people doesn’t mean a damn thing. I also never wanted to stand out by acting crass- if I can, I’d like to make the argument that I was stupid and unaware rather than willfully shooting my gun in the air (so to speak) when I ‘knew it wasn’t that kind of party.’ NOW, I’m getting it- the only way out of a situation like this in the Pit is to realize that there is no situation, that no one cares about anything here, and are only here to chill and talk out of their asses. I get it- and instead of assimalating into your cocktail party (so to speak), which is something that I don’t want to do (the chilling out and having fun on SD), I’d rather you guys give me, now and if I ever need it again, all the CCs I need (
that sounds like ER, doesn’t it?) to keep me in line so I can post my questions (which will be A HANDFUL A WEEK, IF THAT) and stay out of your cocktail party.
I need CCs so as to best know how to stay out of your cocktail party. Please, just give them to me now and in the future if I should get out of line.
There’s nothing wrong with your cocktail party, but I’m just here to ask questions and talk about book learnin’ and movies and stuff- so please, can we agree on the above, and share the news with other members?
Curiously, he remains a virgin. I’m imagining with horror his dating technique.
{andrew aproaches strange woman in bar}
WE LIKE TO FUCK, DON’T WE? 
Don’t tell me to fuck off you cocksucking bitch!!!FUCK!!! No look I’m sorry you insulted me so an eye for an eye that’s my rule.{ } But if you’d just give me some advice on pickup lines instead of insulting me. I’m BEGGING you but you just swear at me FUCK I hate this bar!!! Look I’ve got a notebook I write all my advice in. I’ll show it to you except it’s at home. I don’t like that advice. I’m not here to talk to you I just want to get laid. { :)} All I want is CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM about getting some pussy and all I get is insults from children. You’re all just bullies picking on the new kid so FUCK THIS BAR AND EVERYONE IN IT!!! No, I’m calm now. Now me more advice but be polite.
What do you mean, I have to leave quietly or you’ll call the police?
There is no “out of” the cocktail party. That’s all that’s happening here. If you don’t want to participate in the cocktail party, this isn’t the place for you.
See, the metaphor is intended to convey that there are dozens of conversations going on at once, and your best bet is to mosey around and find a conversation you can participate in without pissing everyone off. You seem to want to stop all the conversations already happen and prevent any that aren’t about you. This is what we’re trying to explain ain’t gonna happen.
Oh for heaven’s sake! We have given you plenty of advice. We are NOT here to hold your hand and “keep you in line”. That’s your job. You’re a big boy.
The “cocktail party” is a metaphor for the entire board. You’re here to:
What do you think the rest of us are here for? And somehow, we manage to get along without pissing people off, with no one holding our hand and giving us constant “CCs” so we can “keep in line.”
Stop making it all about YOU. There’s some CCs!