A Stanley Cup question

Hockey fans have probably all seen those ESPN commercials promoting the Stanley Cup playoffs. They show Dallas Stars players doing various wacky things with the Cup.

Whenever a team wins the NHL’s championship, each player gets to take the Cup basically wherever he wants for a day or two. One or two officials from the NHL go with the player, to make sure no harm comes to the famous trophy.

My question is: who pays the expense for the Cup accompaniment? The team? The NHL? What is their budget for it? It would seem to vary wildly. For example, when the Wings won the first of their most recent Cups in 1998, Russian players on the team took it back to their homeland. The airfare, lodging and other expenses for those NHL Cup-Cadets must have been very expensive.

How does the NHL prepare for such contingencies? Is a lot of coordination with the league required to take it somewhere like Russia or Sweden, as opposed to Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan?

The official Cup escort happened to be on the radio in Atlanta (yesterday, I think.)

He said that each person who had their name on the cup got to have it for one day during the summer. When you add in coaches, owners, trainers, and players, it worked out to be about 50 trips in 90 days.

It sounded like the costs were covered by either the NHL or the NHL Hall of Fame, although they are probably the same basic entity.

There are approx. 2000 names currently on it, dating back 105 years.

I also got the impression that the cup that is shipped to all of the players is actually a replica cup and not the real deal. I may have misunderstood that point though.

Perhaps the cup used in the commercials is a replica cup, but I am fairly certain that teams get to have the actual cup. It sounds strange, but officially, the cup is a “challenge trophy,” where it moves from team to team depending on whop won it most recently (unlike, say, the Lobardi Trophy, where a new one is given out each year). Over the years, hockey players not being the most aristocratic of peoples, have done some strange stuff with the cup. The original cup (which was made of pewter or perhaps tin, I believe) has long since been retired, but can be seen at the Hockey Hall of Fame and bears numerous dents, scrapes, and whatnot from being dropped and mishandled by drunken hockey players at post-season parties. The current cup is made of sterling silver, and much more expensive, so it gets much better supervision.

Still, people often drink or eat stuff out of the cup (the “Jello mold” comercial is not all that far from the truth), a team owner once even supposedly let his dog eat from it for a while. During the season, most teams put the cup back in the Hall of Fame for safe keeping, but I believe that they are under no obligation to do so.

Here’s the full skinny on the cup, as my last message was largely from memories of cup stories, and this is th efull story from http://www.nhl.com/history/index.htm is as follows:

The original cup was silver, was 7 1/2 inches tall and 11 1/2 inches across and cost ten guineas (50 bucks) in 1892 when it was purchased by Lord Stanley. The official name for this cup was The Dominion Hockey Challange Cup, though it was known colloquially as “The Ten Guinea Cup” The silver rings were there from the beginning, though originally only the team names were engraved. The holder of the cup was in possession of it until it lost it in a challenge match, at which point it had to return the cup to its trustees “in good order”

Originally, players began carving their names into the silver ring useing a knife or a nail or whatever sharp object was handy at the time. The original ring was replaced by a “cigar shaped” base in 1939. The cigar base was retired in 1948 and was replaced by a removable base attached to the bowl by a collar. In 1958 the modern one-piece cup and base was introduced, and in 1969 the bowl was replaced since the original bowl was becoming brittle and too delicate to be handled.

The cup, though it was intended to be awarded in 1892, was not given away that year. The original cup trustees, against Lord Stanley’s wishes, refused to give the cup to the Ottawa amateur team, considered by many to be the best team of the day unless they played a match for it. Ottawa refused to play Toronto, the chosen team, and instead withdrew from the Ontario Hockey Association. The Montreal AAA team agreed to step up and play the match in 1893, they won, and became the holders of the first cup.

In 1894, the first playoff was held, a three-team round robin affair once again won by the Montreal AAA. The original cup was determined by “challenge” much like current boxing championships. Any team in Canada could enter the playoffs, which occured generally twice every hockey season. The first western team to win the Cup was the Winnipeg Victorias, who won it from the Montreal Victorias. The longest trip a team ever made was the 1905 Dawson City Klondikers team who made the 4,400 mile trip to Ottawa to challange the Silver Seven for the cup. To arrive, the team took dogsleds to the coast, a boat to Vancouver, and a train to Ottawa.

Also in 1905, a member of the Ottawa Silver Seven left the cup in the Rideau Canal overnight. It got there when a player was challeneged to dropkick the cup. Drunk but confident he did, and succeeded in kicking the cup into the canal, where it was left until the hungover players realized the next morning what they had done and returned to retrieve it.

The cup was not awarded in 1919 due to an outbreak of the Spanish Flu, leaving the two teams in the finals decimated by disease. The Montreal Canadiens, the NHL champs, and Seattle Metropolitans, the PCHA champs, were tied 2-2-1 when so many players became hospitalized that the championship was called a draw.

In 1925, ten players of the Hamilton Tigers, which was supposed to play in the finals, went on labor strike. Players recieved no extra pay for playoff games, and the entire hamilton squad, regular season champs went on strike, pehaps one of the earliest sports labor disputes known.

Hope that was enough trivia for one day!

Do teams get to have the actual Stanley Cup? Yes and no.

The original Cup, or at least the one that they started putting the team and player names on for championships, resides permanently in the NHL Hall of Fame in Toronto.
(All hockey nuts such as myself should consider their lives incomplete until they make a pilgrimage there.)

They stopped adding team and player names to that Cup quite a while ago, and started with a second Cup. When one of the bottom rings fills up with champion team and roster listings, they add another ring, until it gets to a certain size, I guess. Then I suppose they will start yet another Stanley Cup.

Doesn’t help me with my OP, but something we all should know nonetheless.

The Cup that you see when a team wins is not going to change in size. Each of the bigger diameter rings at the bottom of the trophy can hold the names for 10 winning teams. When the bottom-most ring is filled, the top (big)ring is removed and placed in the HHOF, and a new ring is added to the bottom. I was lucky enough to get to spend some time with the Cup last summer and there was one NHL employee who traveled with it. The league pays the expenses of the Cups voyages.

Also, jayron is wrong. The team does have to give it back, that is how the names are engraved. Also, the Stanley Cup does make several “personal apperances” over the course of the year. By far the best trophy in sports.

I recall reading that at one point a 120 pound disgruntled fan walked into the winning team’s celebration and attempted to make off with the trophy. That sounds like a recipie for a hell of a beating to me. Anyone heard this story?