I guess one can either push the envelope, or break it.
Crossing an envelope, wow. I might as well have said I “deep fried” the pavement. Next time I bake the landscaping, I’ll be sure to not sautee the tree line. Thanks.
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And, of course, later when I try to bury the hatchet he lets loose with his paranoia and claims that, really, I’m trying to make peace in order to fight.
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I can also say from experience that trying to bury the hatchet with Excalibre is quite the exercise in futility. In my case he imagined my attempts to make peace to be sucking up and trying to curry favor with him.
I suppose it never occurred to him that I would have absolutely no reason on earth to try to curry favor with him in the first place, but that’s apparently the way the self-perceived superior mind works. So I’m afraid that roger’s reasoned response (damn, how’s that for alliteration) and spirited defense of Excalibre notwithstanding, Excalibre’s long history of disagreeability to virtually everyone is likely to come back to bite him (as it apparently has in this thread) even though his opponent in this instance finds his behavior to be not all that bad.
[QUOTE=dnooman]
What a wussy pitting. I guess I can get really pissed, but I can’t hate. Eh.
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I’ll see your eh, and raise you a feh!
I don’t think that hatred is necessary, at all. I sure as heck don’t hate anybody on this board… it’s only the 'net, after all. I do think that a few people are fools who serve no useful purpose other than an object lesson of what not to do, and still others are just flat out jerks… and I sure think that there are some crazy fuckers out there who could stand to have the hot air taken out of their sails (to mangle a metaphor)… but hatred? It’s just not worth the emotional energy. I mean, hell, sevastopol, one of the worst bigoted and vile trolls on the boards, only merits annoyance when he’s busy shitting in a thread. I couldn’t care less during the daily grind.
Starving: Why, isn’t it clear? The only reason one could possibly wish to end a sniping-fest-over-nothing would be because you were in awe of the other person’s superior intelligence and deference to the fact that they were just plain ol’ better than you. I mean, that doesn’t suggest arrogance, right? Or that they were secretly trying to make peace in order to start a fight. That doesn’t speak to paranoia, right? Naw…
Once upon a time, in the land of The Donald, there was a wicked reality show contestant named Omarosa. Omarosa was an insane drama queen. Some other contestant used that expression, and Omarosa accused her of racism. This caused much discussion, hilarity, and speculation as to Omarosa’s grasp of reality. Little did we know that this was only a taste of things to come, and she was to become one of the greatest villains in the short but illustrious life of reality television.
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Humour is so subjective, and to an extent so cultural, that not only interpersonal differences may cause problems, but even intrapersonal differences: i.e. the idea that the same individual may at times a) not be systematic and predictable with regard to his* own choices and intentions and b) not even know whether he’s being humorous or not. This is an attested psychological phenomenon with regard to reading of texts, and could be extended to the productive psycholinguistic realms as well as the receptive, I believe.
It’s just something one has to live with around here that sometimes people won’t get you, sometimes they do this deliberately for strategic reasons, sometimes the joker is actually not joking, but for strategic reasons, dresses his comments up as a joke (or what later can be defended, excused, etc. as a joke), etc. etc.
With wits** like Cally, of course, the problems are magnified a hundred-fold!
sorry, just to save time…
** a wit in both senses of genius and humourist
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A simpler way of saying all this is that you’re kind of a dick and nowhere near as funny as you think you are, and your more-frequent-than-they-ought-to-be-especially-outside-the-Pit gay baiting remarks are tiresome in the extreme.
And Excalibre is an insulting, disagreeable person, yeah. I have noticed this and been on the recieving end of it several times. She is a stereotypical bully in that regards though, constantly trying to get under people’s skin and cause them problems to cope with her own problems. I’ve mostly ignored her posts for the last year due to this. But that is part of the internet, and sadly I’ve done the same thing to people on other boards (harassed them to cover for my own problems). A message board of thousands of people is going to attract some troubled people to it.
I really can’t be mad at her though. At the risk of sounding Dr. Philish, I am pretty sure she is deeply traumatized somehow. Happy, well adjusted people dont look for excuses to insult people on the internet.
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Happy, well adjusted people dont look for excuses to insult people on the internet.
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Damn, I regret saying that now for various reasons. My point was that having been on both sides of the issue (being the asshole and being the harassed) I have never met an asshole that was living an enjoyable, reasonably content life.
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I think Excalibre is a gay man.
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Yes, that was my last conclusion too based on a recent comment of his that indirectly but succinctly addressed the issue. I only remember because I’d previously assumed the opposite, something that happens here with astonishing frequency.
I was perhaps hesitant about him at first but now I generally enjoy his posts and think he’s a pretty good egg. I think a lot of times stuff in a venue like this simply reads with more venom and bile than what the author intended. I doubt we’d get in such verbal tussels discussing the same subject in a pub or by the water cooler.
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Excalibre is a woman.
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Huh? Really? Bah?
Changing the pronoun of what I intended to post:
When she’s funny she is very funny. (Note her “Greater Forcible Sodomy metro area” joke.) When she’s right she’s very right. When she’s smart she’s very smart.
And when she’s an argumentative insufferable batshit insane prick, she’s a very argumentative insufferable batshit insane prick. She has a talent for putting you on the defensive, and she has a talent for bringing enough other posters to her side to construct a pile-on. She’s a pack hunter. She also has a talent for calling you crazy, when the only crazy in the thread is that which she has brought in herself.
Excalibre, you are in general a wise and thoughful poster. But a bit of advice: Next time you feel like flaming someone, do us all a favor. Step away from the keyboard, count to ten, and thrust a knitting needle into your eye.
Yes, it’s plain from reading his posts over time that Excalibre is a gay man, also acerbic, intelligent, a skillful and graceful writer, not inclined to suffer those he regards as fools gladly, sometimes over the top, with a gift for the bon mot and the extended exegesis alike, a snarky side, and a distinctive, at times abrasive persona.
I happen to like him (perhaps in part because we’ve never wrangled) and enjoy reading his posts. I can see why others would dislike him.
I agree with Eddy-F-T. **Excalibre **is one of my favorite posters. He’s smart and funny and not afraid to laugh at himself. I wish there were more poster like him around here, not less. So what if you get into a tussle every now and then? It’s the nature of the beast. And the OP didn’t even link to any specific posts!