I accidentally a whole word there.
I think there was meant to be ‘like’ between “you don’t” and “what’s”
See, this would require your opinion mattering even a tiny bit for me to care what you find ridiculous. People here judge people for all kinds of reasons that are truly ridiculous and matter very little. You don’t like that I think he looks like a creeper? Whoopdie do. How arrogant you are that you think your condemnation should factor into anything.
So your clarification is worth just about as much as your first comment on the matter. I’m glad we had this talk.
Well, there IS the simple fact of the matter that I’m right, and you’re some loser who gets off on pretending you’re just too cool for these boards…yet you keep throwing your two cents in. Wonder why it is that you keep coming back, like you just HAVE to let us all know how little you care. Almost, y’know, like you want our approval. 
Fact is, the enjoyment I get from chastising suckers like yourself is entirely independent of your reaction to it. You’ll just have to cope with that.
It’s nice to know you’re just as much of a goddamned fucking moron as all these other assholes.
We don’t talk about rape. That would require assholes like you to FUCKING SHUT UP AND LISTEN. All you assholes do is go on about dark alleys and how the cocktease asked for it. But if actually read anything you’d know that filling page after page with 'she asked for it and if you complain about it you’re…Let me see:
Crazy bitch, stupid bitch, shrill bitter bitch, sanctimonious bitch, blah blah. The POINT YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE is that while TWTTWN was singled out, there’s lots and lots more examples of guys who justfied rape and positively exalted in describing how much the bitch asked for it, but your not concerned with that. You’re concerned with how you can’t make page after page of moronic, puerile jokes that were old and boring and then kind of disgusting after one page.
And those rape threads you talk about? The ones where guys say it’s not rape because I say so and the bitched asked for it and the bitch shouldn’t walked down that dark alley------that’s not talking about rape, you fucking moron. And you just used every sexist cliche in the book, too, you dickwad, so go and troll somebody else. If you dare to differ with the assholes on this board who want to blame the victim----and TWTTWN is by far not hte only one-----apparently you have to go along with the guys otherwise you guys just love to whip out the sexism. It’s funny how that’s okay in the Pit but racism is not.
Yours is the ignorance that needs fighting.
You think it’s cute to be sexist, dismissive, and to make up bullshit. Yeah, anything but face the truth is that for every one single loser who gets pitted, at least another half dozen are okay dokey with the assholes on any rape thread.
Funny thing about you guys. You guys don’t find the rapist apologists nearly as offensive as you do the women who call you on your sexist bullshit. “I am womyn.” Go back to the frat house, dickdrip.
"your’ should be ‘you’re’
This is so blatantly, insanely false, I wonder if you put every poster on your side on your ignore list just so you can continue to live in Persecutionland.
Congrats, though, on making it about you. Again.
It does paint quite a frightening portrait of some people’s sex lives that they’re just looking for enough ‘consent’ to not be told no, rather than, you know, a clearly willing, enthusiastic sex partner who is looking to both give and get in a mutually satisfying sexual experience. The worst thing that will happen if you don’t have sex with someone whose consent is unclear is that you will not have sex with someone.
And yeah, there are hokes about ‘rape month’ and all that, but certainly we’re talking quantity over quality here. I think someone (maybe you) pointed out why this is – the age of posters, the discrepancy between talking about rape and sexual assault (especially between female and male friends) in real life versus the internet, the number of people who don’t have it ping their radar until they’re in a serious relationship, or until they or a close friend experiences it themselves. I don’t think there’s going to be ‘The rape thread to end all rape threads,’ but every ‘I’m not victim blaming but…’ post does detract from this site and this board’s credibility.
I’ve never been in a frat house in my life. Did buy weed from some frat guys on a few occasions, and I’ve seen Animal House a few times. Not sure if that counts.
margin’s totally extreme viewpoints, coupled with almost ubiquitous misrepresentation of what people say (it’s easier to mock someone if you claim they’re saying something stupid than if you admit to what they’re actually saying) leads to a lot of posts that look like victim blaming. If she’d stop being quite such an extremist about the issue, people would stop arguing with her. That would just need to look something like this:
“Look, of course there are things women can do to lessen their risk of a small subcategory of rapes, but those things are obvious and most women already do them, and anyway we need to be working toward a society in which women don’t need to do such things. And of course if women could avoid dating skeezy guys they’d lower their risk of date rape, but there’s no magical formula that lets you know which are the skeezy guys in advance. Granted both of these things–can we move on to discussing how to educate and socialize men so that we minimize the chance of people BECOMING rapists? This is the best way to fight this awful evil.”
But she won’t grant even the minor concessions above, and it comes across as totally crazy not to grant them. So people (read: me) argue with her because we have a hard time believing anyone’s unwilling to admit them. And she responds by making sweeping statements about guys and men, and when she’s called on her bullshit, she angrily tosses it back: she’s only talking about SOME men, not ALL men. And then she goes right back to making the generalizations.
In short, margin, your tone, your dishonesty, and your viciousness do nothing to reduce rapes. If you’re actually interested in doing some good here, adopt the sort of civil tone in GD that can actually be persuasive, and consider what folks say honestly instead of jumping to false conclusions about stupid things that tangentially resemble what they actually said.
What ever happened to the whole having sex on the 3rd-10th date thing? Is getting to know someone you might have sex with so outlandish?
The expectation of having sex with someone by 10pm whom you haven’t met yet is… well, kinda questionable IMHO. Maybe you are really into picking up strangers and bars. People are free to do that, I can’t argue. If a dude really expects to have sex with some as-yet-unmet stranger by the end of the night though, it is kind of the same attitude one would have toward prostitution, which of course is illegal most places. I guess I’m saying rapists expect women to be sex-slaves or something (of course I’m probably wrong and expect my lambasting), and PUAs expect them to be something like whores.
Then there is my suggestion- people who date a woman/have a girlfriend/wife treat them like, you know, a friend. ‘Pick Up Artist’ is perhaps the wrong term. Maybe it should be ‘put them back down real quick artist.’
This is fairly sexist. What do women who go to clubs looking for one-night stands expect of men?
There’s looking and then there is expecting. That’s all.
But- basically the same thing. Only, horny dogs instead of whores.
I’m having a hard time discounting Margin’s assertions here. Sure, TWTTWTHWN (probably got that wrong) is kind of a farce at this point, but the idea that women can be talked down from a rape is beyond offensive. Like it or not: consent is the measure, not her BAC.
And here is my disclaimer: yep. Women in most of America are aware and invested in keeping a Good Reputation at the expense of their own urges and desire. But if they seek or enjoy sex? Well, they immediately become suspect and lose credability. Is that fair?
Hell no. Inhibitions are hard to shrug off, and the battle between biology and inhibitions is fierce. Even with that admission: if she doesn’t give consent to the act: dude is Rapey. Sorry, fellas, but the proliferation of monikers such as slut/whore/easy/fast that make this distinction necessary.
So until the equality is reached between studs/bachelors/stallions/ladykiller//PUA and prude/spinsters/teases/sluts/whores: any sexual act committed out of love should be undertaken with great care and consideration. Not saying “get it in writing” but I am insisting that both parties should be active, consenting adults with a similar agenda. What’s wrong with that?
I promise to reach out from this keyboard and personally prevent anyone from ever using those monikers :rolleyes:
Awesome. Come, do us all with enthusiasm and aplomb, please. Also, encourage your contemporaries to apply the same notion. We’ve been awaiting your arrival.
TWTTWN, who has been thoroughly disparaged in this thread, is the only one who proposed the “talking down from a rape” concept, and even he tried to distance himself from the idea. Against whom, exactly, are you making this bold stand?
Or is this another case where a poster feels compelled to announce that dropping babies into an industrial paper shredder is just wrong, and damn the repercussions for saying so?
Nothing whatsoever.
Is the baby alive when dropped?
Umm… seriously not following you. Another go?
My point: women like sex, too, it’s hardwired. But since women can get pregnant, are usually smaller/weaker than men, and aren’t applauded for gettin’ it regular, have reservations about the act. They might back out. They shouldn’t be talked into it; certainly shouldn’t be coerced.
Nothing new here, unless you are a clueless pick up artist brainwashed to trick a woman out of the pussy. That ain’t you, right? So your dog… where is he in this fight?