Laconic response: “If”. On his own say-so, TheWhoToTheWhatNow is getting plenty, with a great deal of mutual enjoyment.
Word.
I haven’t had a bunch but I got the last one to stick with me for 15 years.
Gets better by the day.I’ll take quality over quantity any fuckin’ day of the week.
And just so you know, TWaTT or whatever your skeezy handle is, If you’re for real, you are F U C K E D in the head. I’ve wiped my ass with better things than you. Ya Fucker!
If this joker’s on the level, he’s a little turd I’d be happy to soil my boots with.
Go back and read his first 3 posts and see if it all isn’t in there.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13543690#post13543690
Yeah, TWTTWN seriously pinged my creep-o-meter in the original PUA thread cause it seemed like he was selling himself way too hard. Couple that with a blatant disregard for other people’s boundaries and you get yourself the grandmaster of creepiness. As I recall, he also made a fairly tasteless rape joke in that thread as well.
We debated briefly in that thread but I was away for the weekend and by the time I got back the following Monday the thread was getting monstrously repetitive and I found that I just didn’t care enough to respond. In any case, he’s only managed to get creepier with every dating and sex thread that he posts to. He’ll often have some good points about relationships and dating and then follow it up with examples that betrays how much of an asshat he is. Take, for example, his point in one thread where he said that everyone should be the best person that they could be for their significant other and work hard at the relationship by working on making themselves attractive and have great sex. Good advice, right? Then he points out that he gets this great sex by passive-aggresively pointing out to his girlfriend that he’s going out for the night which guilts her into having sex with him so he doesn’t go have sex with another girl that night. Ick.
You know what I learned from this how-to guide? That I’ve encountered That Guy a few times in my life, and was blown away by how obnoxious and forward he was. Couldn’t get away fast enough, and was scrambling for the right words to just. make. it. stop.
Now, at the first sign of this nervy schtick, I can just hold up a hand, shake my head, and say"Dude… Don’t."
Or whack him with a rolled-up newspaper.
Aw, hell no…
I got as far as “You can become friends after you have sex.”
Yeah, that’s fairly obnoxious.
Dating a woman past 24 is “depressing”.
(In a thread about a parent worried about their teenage daughter dating a 24-year-old)
In this thread, he blames a poster for her partner’s affairs – she’s obviously not satisfying him properly, and hints that she’s probably “let herself go”. Basically, “well, you’re not satisfying him, so of COURSE he’s going to cheat, duh! Why are you so shocked!”
He does it here too.
Survey says? Creepy McCreeperson.
If you do a search of his posts, they’re almost ALL in dating and/or sex threads.
Rapebear? Is that like Pedo Bear?
Yeah. Plus, dude is verbose.
I can’t find it, but I recall him saying that he was going to restrict his posting to that topic.
I suspect because he thinks his “vast” expertise in doing the same thing over and over again to women with less experience than he has means something.
I particularly “enjoy” his “virgin exploits”.
For all his vaunted “social prowess”, he doesn’t get how he comes off as a complete skeve.
I can only read bits of his posts because they’re waaay too long, boring and smug. The one trick pony thing is cute for a couple of times, then it should be left out to pasture.
Personally, I think he should be pitted for the “hahaha” shit. It’s bad enough to advocate rape, but don’t pepper your writing with 13-year-old speech.
This was an excellent post, storyteller0910, but the amount of time he’s put into his (very lengthy) posts here actually makes me more inclined to believe he’s full of it. We’ve had a couple of past cases of Dopers who posted and posted about the fantasy versions of their own lives. He also spends a lot of time on the Internet for someone who supposedly spends so much time picking up women.
I have also wondered if he might be a true troll, possibly a sock puppet, who wanted to see if he could get Dopers to swallow a bunch of unsupported claims about how great it is to be a pick-up artist. I have to say I’m a little disappointed in the Dope that people weren’t jumping on him for that as soon as he started posting here. It’s not like he’s simply telling personal anecdotes, he keeps saying that he’s got tons of evidence in support of the effectiveness of pick-up techniques. It’s just that he can’t provide us with any of this evidence, because…he doesn’t want to. We just need to take his word for it. And if you can’t trust an anonymous stranger on the Internet who talks about nothing but how many women he’s had sex with then who CAN you trust? He also claims to have been a long-time lurker before he began posting. While lurkers become posters all the time, it seems strange to me that a long-time lurker would suddenly start posting so much and at such great length.
Dismissing him as a liar may be wishful thinking on my part, though. If TWTTWN isn’t lying to us then he’s very likely an unrepentant rapist. If he isn’t yet, it’s probably just a matter of time. He doesn’t/wouldn’t see it that way himself of course, but that’s because he apparently doesn’t understand what consent is or why it’s important. This may be true of many rapists. As I mentioned in another recent thread, there’s research indicating that a large number (~30%) of convicted rapists believe that the victim “really” wanted it. This includes cases where the rapist’s own account of the encounter has the victim saying no or resisting physically, or the rapist threatening her with a weapon. This reminds me an awful lot of TWTTWN’s claim that a woman who is “protesting the entire time” is actually having “a romantic sexual adventure”.
Good point. Sorry to “me too”, but I have nothing to add to this.
“Romantic sexual adventure” is so toolishly creepy that on this basis alone, I might consider him a troll. But alas, there are men out there who actually talk like this. Not implausible at all to me that he’s one of them.
For one, why would a troll try to backpedal so hard? When trolls are confronted on their comments, they tend to let it all hang out and really push the envelope. This guy, though, comes up with earnest sounding bullshit as though he’s trying to convince us that he’s being unfairly maligned. In his mind, he makes perfect sense; everyone else is crazy or anti-PUA. And when a poster comes along and some says anything remotely sympathetic to his position, he clings to them like a drowning victim, as if that kernel of validation is going to safe his life. This is not troll behavior. This is behavior of a guy who is used to being agreed with and doesn’t realize how douchey he comes across to others outside his scene.
Meh, troll, sock puppet or not, who cares? Thing is, there IS an entire “PUA” mindset out there – there’s an entire website and books written about the whole thing.
(Although if he IS a returning poster, yeah, I’m curious as to who it is – who wouldn’t be?)
I’d agree with all but your last sentence here, or at least the way you’ve phrased it. I can believe that there’s some pick-up artist forum where everyone agrees with TWTTWN and believes all his stories. However, I think the odds are good that he’s just trying to live out his fantasies online and is desperate to have others accept him as the man he wishes he could be.
If this is true then that may actually be worse than being a deliberate troll. A deliberate troll would presumably realize that describing a rape as “a romantic sexual adventure” is the sort of thing that decent people find offensive. He’d say it for exactly that reason, because his goal would be to upset others. If **TWTTWN **is instead posting in-character as the smooth ladies man he fantasizes about being, he may actually believe that the things he’s saying are reasonable.
Regardless of his motives, which we may never know, I think it’s clear we’re dealing with a sick individual here. He’s also a one-trick pony, a bad writer, a worse debater, and contributes nothing of value to the board. This creep has been allowed to hijack enough threads with his proselytizing about how great it is to be a pick-up artist and his boasts about what a super stud he is. I don’t know whether he’s crossed the line into bannable behavior, although I personally would be happy to see him banned. While I’d normally say it’s a good idea to just ignore posters like this, difficult as that can be, it seems bad for the board for us to just turn a blind eye on a poster who’s gone so far as to portray rape as sexy good fun for everyone. IIRC the Mods have occasionally told posters obsessed with a particular issue that they need to stop bringing up their pet subject, or limit themselves to one thread on the topic. It would be nice to see something like that happen regarding TWTTWN.
If he is a troll, he’s playing the PUA thing to a T.
I did some transcription work once, and one of the jobs I was asked to do was transcriptions of a PUA “Weekend Getaway”. Guys were paying $5k EACH to go and spend a weekend with tools like TWTTWN, and these guys would tell them how to get Game. How to “neg” girls to take the wind out of their sails, how to isolate them in groups, how to use their bodies to block them off from avenues of escape (one part that stuck out to me was talking about how when talking to a girl who’s sat at a bar, try to get one of your legs between hers - it shows her you’re dominant AND stops her from being able to turn away/move easily!). The guy whose lectures I was transcribing even went as far as to tell the guys what lies to tell to make the girls more likely to believe them.
It was nasty stuff, and I canned the job after a few hours of work because I could not continue doing it. TWTTWN reminds me of that shit all over again, and it’s nasty. I don’t like him getting involved in ANY relationship thread, because he’s just got such a fucked-up idea of how human interactions should work, and he spams it out with walls of this bullshit.
If so, isn’t this against the rules and/or guidelines for posting on this board?
The way he talks about women, outside of his…targets…is something else. I cannot imagine how much fun he must be to jog by, or just be around, if you don’t fit his idea of the fuckable woman----or if you reject him. I’m sure he’s a total doll when you recognize his tricks and tell him to fuck off.
<insert Cesario joke here>
Ah yes, I found the relevant rule. Marley discusses it in this post. I should probably stop trying to junior mod now. :o