I find it hard to believe someone couldn’t deduce what the “hateful racial slur” was. Not disbelieving you, Mighty_Mouse, just wondering what their real motivation was.
You hear “hateful racial slur”, and you automatically deduce that it’s “Kill all n-words”?
You’re either psychic or somehow far too in tune with the racist who scrawled that, but the overwhelming vast majority of people wouldn’t make that deduction.
You can see this all over the local schools in the suburbs that used to be 99+% white and are now only 95-97% white. Full on panic that they are being overrun with aliens. Also that they themselves (Irish and Italians mostly, now many Eastern Europeans) were discriminated against but did not go around whining about it.
There have been a spate of incidents of racial abuse and anti Semitic abuse at high school sports events in Greater Boston. In ALL cases the community rallied around the offenders, calling the Blacks, Asian, Jews and their “allies” out as being snowflakes.
You can Google this. I’m not going to name the town I live in, but you should not have any trouble finding these reports in many cities and towns in Eastern Massachusetts.
This is going to blow your mind. Blacks aren’t the only group that people are racist against! I know it’s hard to believe.
Not psychic or “in tune with racists” (what a shitty thing to say, btw). Also don’t know why you think you know that “the overwhelming, vast majority people wouldn’t make that deduction”. If there were any way to prove it, I’d put money on the vast majority of people where I live deducing it, if for no other reason, the majority of stories about this kind of thing involve slurs against black people.
I’m just confused as to how “hateful racial slur” is deduced to “Kill all n-words.” It’s certainly not the first, nor the 10th or even the 30th phrase I’d think of when someone says “hateful racial slur.”
Maybe the 42nd.
Obviously not the “kill all” part, but I think you know that.
I don’t know that.
My understanding is that the high school reported the incident with the words “hateful racial slur”, and that people wanted it to be more specific as to what the actual words used were, since people are offended by everything these days.
I would think that @Mighty_Mouse would have phrased things very differently if the high school had reported that there was a “Kill all ‘hateful racial slur’” painted in the boy’s bathroom. I could be wrong, but that’s the impression that I got.
So yes, I am working under the impression that the entire phrase was unknown until the school chose to indulge the curious, not just the particular word.
Which is why I was surprised that anyone would go from “hateful racial slur” straight to “Kill all n-words”, unless that phrase is far more common where you live than where I do.
(and as far as “in tune with racists”, that was not meant as a dig or something that you want to be, just as I am involuntarily in tune with the racists around here and the phrases they use, since I’m unfortunately immersed in their culture and hear some pretty nasty stuff on far too regular a basis.)
Seriously? 42nd? What are the other 41? I could understand it not being #1, but it would have to be top 5 for most people.
When I hear “racist graffiti,” my knee jerk assumption is usually anti-Semitism. Just seems more of a Nazi M.O?
I’m certainly not going to list them off here.
But, I would have started thinking it was just the word itself. Then maybe a f-bomb dropped in front of it. Then maybe some adjectives, some verbs, some superlatives, maybe even a nasty preposition.
An actual call to action would be low on my list of guesses. Maybe I would get it in less than 42, but I wouldn’t really feel good about it.
Were I reporting on it, I wouldn’t call that phrase a “hateful racial slur”, I would call it a “threatening racial slur.”
There is a local case from Chicago that wold be laughable if it weren’t so horrifying. A U of Ill at Chicago law prof administered a test on which a question about employment harassment described an employee who had been referred to as a “n___” and a “b___”. Some precious students took/claimed offense, the snowball started rolling, and the prof is now suspended and fighting for his job.
IMO, the craziest part is when the prof went to required sensitivity training, and the materials gave the example of someone who was referred to as a “n___”! Maybe if he claimed seeing that traumatized him, he might get hs job back! ![]()
What I can say is this:
I’m 100% on board with racism being a real problem we need to address. I’m no apologist, and I really do care.
Yet, when we engage in discussions like this, I’m absolutely paranoid that here, among a community I’ve been a part of for almost 20 fucking years, there’s a real chance that I’ll be called a racist simply because I don’t agree with the cultural norms around how we discuss - not use, but discuss- one, and ONLY ONE word.
That’s kinda fucked up.
Like many of these type of claims of pc/wokeness run amok, there’s more to the story than just this single example:
FYI, your link is paywalled protected.
Sorry about the paywall. And if you (and the ABA) cared to read deeper than the institution’s self-serving “internal investigation”, you’d find there is less - other than grandstanding by offenderati, and caving by fearful organizations.
Really? This seems pretty bad:
Allegations the office found to be substantiated include Kilborn in a January 2020 lecture dismissing a Black student’s view that his comments were overgeneralizing references to people of color, referring to racial minorities as “cockroaches,” and denouncing their participation in civil rights claims. Additionally, the letter claims Kilborn characterized media stories focused on the negative behaviors of white men as “lynching.” All of the remarks were made in the space of one hour, according to the letter, and Kilborn reportedly acknowledged much of the conduct. It also says he apologized for the lynching reference.
That’s just one incident. I think, as is usually the case, this guy was a flaming asshole who was pretty insensitive about minorities and race, and the thing that did him in was just the the last straw. And, all that happened was that he was put on paid administrating leave for a few weeks. The horror!!
I consider this a rather thorough discussion of the case.
Maybe you can pull out a few quotes, especially ones that dispute this professor’s apparent history of being an asshole.
Sorry if you are not interested enough to read a not overly long linked document. I think this incident - as with many such claims of offense/intolerance/harassment - are not well suited for “soundbite” analysis. I’m not interested in engaging in such a superficial and - IMO misleading - discussion.
if you don’t care to look into context, then we likely ought to outlaw the word cockroach as well.