Not sure if you’ve talked to the big-gut guys but they may be taking care of themselves as well. I’ve been beaten in ultramarathons by girls who were slightly stockier than me. And high over the hills of Salt Lake City I was running in a canyon and, coming back I heard something moving through the brush and a really chunky guy crashed through and we ran past each other like it wasn’t no thang. So if they run several times a week they could be fat and fit at the same time.
For me, its not the gym membership per se, its the mind set that seems to go with having and using a gym membership. Of the women that I know or have known in the past that worked out to maintain a certain level of fitness who had and used a gym membership, while physically desireable, were unattractive to me because our approaches to life were too different. The women I know that work out who do so at home with their own equipment instead of going to a gym have a lifestyle that is closer to mine and thus are more attractive to me. The gym goers are more healthy eating and no vices oriented in their living, while the home gym owners either work at a job with some level of physicality and use exercise at home to supplement that or would rather spend money one time on a little bit of equipment and save the ongoing outlays on things like rich food and drink and other pleasurable things and view gym memberships as a waste of time and money unless it is a specific type of gym, like for boxers or something.
Can’t you find anywhere else where you can brag louder?
You want to compare yourself to other ‘nice body’ females.
How can you tell by her ‘nice body’ if she was relaxed with her workout/eating habits and just naturally had a nice body, or if you knew that she was a bit fastidious about making sure that she worked out regularly and ate healthy?
“Overall, I was just wondering.”
I don’t understand what you are wondering about.
Are you jealous that some people don’t work as hard as you do to have “a nice body”?
Do you want people besides your husband to praise you for your efforts to have “a nice body”?
The reply should be or is; “Most? How many girls have you been with” :eek:
On another note my two cents.
I like when women care enough about themselves to stay reasonably healthy and active. The gym rat types who are obsessed with dieting and working out is a HUGE turn off. Like Boner killing turn off. The reason why it sucks is because they will start to expect you to be the same way and if you don’t, it turns into “we never do anything together”. Just speaking from experience, obviously not for all women.
Wouldn’t in the end boil down to whether having a good body is part of a “high maintenance” package or not? It doesn’t matter if it involves lots of hours at the gym, lots of hours at the beautician or pouts a mile long if you didn’t tell them how pretty they are / look at them admiringly enough, how much maintenance one is willing to put up with or considers minimal varies from person to person. The closest I can come to seeing a relationship between that and gender is which traits are socially considered admirable for each, but the “high maintenance” thing is there whether it’s about a woman with a hot body or a man with a hotrod.
My experience was always the snotty, religiously evangelical attitude with a side of snide commentary on whatever choices.
Put me in for “works at it” being way hotter, for so many reasons:
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She cares enough about something to create and execute a plan that requires strong discipline and drives positive results - these results are physical in this instance, but that discipline and planning and execution capacity can and probably does serve her well in multiple other aspects of life.
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That discipline and work is going to give her many more years of being a hottie - how many 20 year olds did you know in college with drool-worthy bodies, who were exactly the “eat and drink however I want and stay skinny with no effort” types? Look em up on facebook, and you’ll find nearly all of them have seriously let themselves go. The ones who actually had to work at it are still hot, and will still be hot 10 and even 20 years from now, because when it started actually requiring effort, they were able to step up to the challenge.
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Reiterating other opinions here that Fit and toned >> waifs - I lived in Asia for years, skinny with no tone is easy to find, and totally “meh.” Skinny with curves and some visible muscle definition? Rrowr!
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It fits better with my lifestyle - I’m in the gym 3-5 times a week and lift competitively. I put effort into eating right, and frequently pass up temptations like desserts and drinks. Somebody who works at it will be right there on the same journey as me, instead of getting frustrated at me being “Mr. Perfect” about my diet and gym habits when they’re looking for an excuse to pig out.
Anybody who has a passably fit body (read: not anywhere near as fat and awful as me) gets my mild respect. I don’t care if they do it by merely not eating too much or if they do it by spending eighteen hours a day at the gym; the fact that they haven’t let themselves go to ruin is what I respect, not how they accomplished it.
That said, it’s a mild respect. I’m okay with people being moderately chubby too, as long as it hasn’t gone to far (read: anywhere near as fat and awful as me).
It does not read like that honestly. It reads like whether the concern about her physical looks motivating making fitness a central component of her life would be a turn-off. And it would be. Making fitness and nutrition a central concern for the fun of fitness or for overall health OTOH and having an athletic attractive physique as a bonus but not as the main motivating factor, that is another thing. Not really the same question.
I find an excessive concern about the superficial to be unattractive because it usually travels with a good amount of insecurity. OTOH enjoying fitness and caring about nutrition in reasonable non-obsessive ways would be attractive features.
This could be me except for the “lift competitively” part.
A healthy actively managed body is a sign of a healthy actively managed worthwhile mind. And vice versa. Correlation is not causation. But it’s one way to bet.
I’m not looking for a new woman any time soon. But at my increasing age it becomes increasingly obvious that women my age who care enough to work at it are getting real rare. Which does not bode well for my future if I do end up looking.