I think Haley really is just bitter. She claimed Abdul disinvited her, and apparently lied. I don’t know what all of their squabbles were about but some of it just sounds petty. And no I am not inclined to give her the benefit of a doubt.
That “killing Palestinians” ad sounds like it was in poor taste, in the least. But it speaks to how I sometimes feel my tax dollars are spent. Unless it explicitly mentioned Jews I don’t think I can get too upset about Abdul ignoring that one. If it DID mention Jews, that’s a problem.
Half of them were not Hezbollah members but that didn’t stop you from implying that they all were.
Maybe you should be as exact, or slippery, as you expect others to be.
Understand, the standard you invoke with regards to the Carlson ad is the standard I’m invoking here.
If Carlson endorsed El-Sayed then you accused all of them of being Hezbollah.
Unless I’m missing something, @Babale didn’t make that claim. I asked for clarification and he corrected me.
Also, I got that idea - that Carlson praised Abdul - from an article in the New York Times. I’m reading all the articles to try to figure this shit out.
Carlson HAS praised Abdul, but those clips aren’t in that ad. He has described Abdul’s campaign as “literally Trumpian” (I’m sure you can see why El Sayed didn’t use THAT clip!)
Eh… It’s a moral grey area. I don’t think he has to renounce it.
I’d be seriously fucking creeped out by Carlson if I were him, though. Also, Trumpian? Where the hell is he getting that? Abdul has been running on an anti-corruption platform. Trump is the embodiment of corruption.
This goes to show though that he seems to be in the habit of accepting praise wherever he can get it without really questioning the source, at least not publicly. So it tracks that he’d let both Carlson and Piker slide.
I mean, running an anti corruption campaign is not exactly a difference from Trump. That was a major theme in 2016 and (paradoxically for an incumbent) in 2020.
Trump obviously didn’t live up to it, but he did campaign on anti-corruption. Hopefully Abdul lives up to it more than Trump did (not exactly difficult to be fair )
He even alludes to this in the ad, saying to the trumpy audience, “we agree on many things, such as that Washington is a corrupt swamp.”
Well, I for one am someone of Jewish descent who is definitely feeling less safe these days. But it’s not because of El-Sayed. It’s White Christian Nationalists that scare me.
It may not be surprising she doesn’t like El-Sayed at this point but endorsing Mike Rogers is joining the enemy camp.
Rogers holds positions I’m opposed to, like being anti-choice in reproductive matters, voted to de-fund Planned Parenthood, is pro-tarriff, walked back on saying Trump instigated the Jan 6 attack, supported the SAVE act, approved of the invasion of Iraq which I remind you was done on faked evidence of WMDs, opposed the Gordie Howe bridge (Detroit really did need a new bridge between the US and Canada), is actively supporting attacks on Iran, clearly doesn’t give a fuck about the impact of fuel prices rising as a result on the average person, claims the President can conduct a war without the approval of Congress or anyone else because I guess he thinks living under a dictator is a good thing, wants to end the Affordable Care Act because why the fuck do people need healthcare anyway, voted against care for 9/11 first responders who are ill because of their actions after that attack because fuck 'em too who gives a shit they’re suffering, is anti-immigration and anti-immigrant to the point he’s probably pro-concentration camp, Rogers is anti-LGBTQ+… he’s scum. He’s the sort of scum that’s been dragging the US down the toilet for 10 years now.
People who support scum are also scum. It’s not that difficult a thing to figure out.
Republican Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski endorsed Democrat Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins over three Republican candidates on the ballot in Alaska.
Former Republican Congressman Ken Buck endorsed Democratic Attorney General Phil Weiser over the Republican nominee, Victor Marx, for the Colorado Gubernatorial race.
Two former Republican governors have endorsed Democrat Adam Hamilton in his bid to oust incumbent Republican Senator Roger Marshall in Kansas.
Marc Racicot, who was Montana’s governor in the 1990s and later led the RNC during George W. Bush’s first term, is backing Sam Forstag over Republican Aaron Flint in the state’s 1st Congressional District, currently held by Republican Ryan Zinke.
In New Hampshire, a former Trump-backed nominee for U.S. Senate is among a group of Republicans who have endorsed the Democratic nominee in one of the most important Senate battlegrounds.
Former Republican Governor David Beasley has endorsed Democrat Annie Andrews in South Carolina’s U.S. Senate race.
Talarico’s campaign revealed a list of more than 20 Republicans endorsing him over his GOP opponent Ken Paxton, including former congressmen Steve Bartlett and Adam Kinzinger and Tom Phillips, the former chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court.
In South Dakota, the state’s Republican Secretary of State Monae Johnson has endorsed a Democrat to succeed her in a state where a Democrat has not held statewide office in over a decade.
Followed by three more examples of Non-“FORMER” top GOPsters endorsing obscure Democrats.
Still better than what I recall when I Googled the question a few years ago.
Just now I Googled "What top Republicans endorsed Kamala Harris? 13 high-ranked Republicans appeared and all 13 had the word “Former” prefixed to their high post.
(The names included Cheney, Cheney, Schwarzenegger, Kinzinger, Flake, Hagel, Scaramucci, Stephanie Grisham and 5 more I’d never heard of. Think of it!: The most corrupt and incompetent President imaginable and ZERO high-ranked sitting Republicans came out against him.)
You know what, nothing about this race is right in front of my eyes. I don’t live in Michigan. I barely followed this race until it blew up in the SDMB “Senate races” thread. I have no idea if El-Sayed is my ideological ally. But you have lost my trust over time, with any number of extreme posts that leave out important details or background.
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You need to highlight that the guy’s relatives were Hezbollah (in a way that suggests El-Sayed’s relatives were Hezbollah) when that’s completely irrelevant. People are upset when their relatives are killed in war, that’s normal. You spend most of your post telling us the killer is unsympathetic. I don’t really identify with mass murderers. You didn’t need to tell me he’s unsympathetic.
@Spice_Weasel doesn’t focus on the killer. She focuses on the question. What did El-Sayed do, and why might he have done that, and why is it troubling.
I mean, yes, if you hadn’t already lost my trust, i could have picked out the answer to the question from your post. But it’s very bare bones. (Except for the ranting about the murderer.) In contrast, @Spice_Weasel gives context about El-Sayed, rather than about the murderer. She explains when he said what. She makes it clear it’s not the only thing he said on the topic, just that he added this and she makes it clear that he said it at an extremely bad moment. She also adds something about the Hasan Piker issue. That’s a little bare bones. But i read it already feeling like i trust this post. So I’m inclined to trust that part of it, too.
You are a hurt person hurting people. (Verbally, on a message board. Not by murdering innocent strangers.) I get that, and I try to cut you some slack for it. But your rage muddies whatever story you want to convey.
Let me know if and when you want to have a good faith conversation, not whatever this bullshit accusation is. I expected better from you, of all fucking people.
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