Yes that counts as a prayer. Congratulations you are now a Christian. Now go forth and annoy the atheists.
This is a pretty arrogant thing to say.
So is the question: For those of you who had an abortion, did you say a prayer for the aborted fetus?
I have no idea what you mean by, “denying a (sic) unborn child personhood,” and I don’t think you do, either. So stating that a fetus is not a person offends you, but ending the life of that fetus does not? Which do you consider to be the greater denial of personhood?
So, are you one of those people who believes, “Abortion is murder but I find it morally acceptable.”? I don’t want to put words in your mouth, I’m just trying to understand what your position is, if you know.
You are looking for logic in a kanicbird post? Have you never come across him before? He is legitimately insane. As in, “hearing voices telling him to do things and seeing demons in people’s faces” insane.
You say a kindly god would not penalize an unborn baby because of its parents’ actions. OK your definition of god and mine are different, as to me we are to be one with god and to be god. As such we acknowledge the soul and wish it well on it’s journey with the full godly authority to abort, not doing so to me seems to incur a karmic penalty and denial of reality and quote frankly the diminishment of women.
I agree. Many atheists have a god that is more defined by Christianity then I do. Ask them what God is and you will generally get the Christian God, ask me and you will get only love (ok I am not perfect on this, but better then most atheists)
Quite frankly this post has been amazing and way beyond the pole. What it is to be accepted in the pro-choice camps is to me very diminishing of womanhood. Not understanding a simple OP goes to show that a entirely different view of reality has to be believed to the point that they can not understand a certain counter view point (this is quite frankly scary), and it appears to incur a karmic penalty that is the exact opposite of what that woman needs - understanding and respect, instead she gets hiding. In this she has to deny the personhood of the one she is ending the physical life of yet may be in need of loving compassion (karmically how can this happen?)
To me God has granted the woman godhood over that life, to accept or decline, in that God shows great respect for women, more then the typical pro choice camp and greater then the typical pro life camp.
Well perhaps on both, but it is a different viewpoint which I realized is more different then I expected. To me the thing in the womb is a child with a soul - no questions no issues.
But I didn’t want to ask if the woman felt no prayer was needed, but was prayer offered or suspected. As this thread shows many women believe that the unborn need no prayer, os that itself would skew the results.
It is a child to me, yes it may skew the results but no more then embryo or fetus would.
Athena considers reasonable requests, but not prayers. Too servile…
Even if that’s true, the child is now dead. Why the need for prayer? Sucks to be the dead baby, but God will be kind, no?
My initial assumption was that the child was considered a person with a soul, my realization is that not only is that not the norm, it is actually incomprehensible to some.
This leads me to the conclusion of needed not to consider that life a soul is what pro choice is about, altering the ability to understand reality, (and also causes karmic consequences - as stated above)
I do not understand your second paragraph
To me the child is not dead, life and death have a different meaning to me. But the good will intentions of those who are of god (all of us) are part of god.
To me how you treat others will be how you are treated, this includes how you treat the unborn, but also respects your decision as it is yours, given by God.
Silly Knickerbocker. Catholics ARE Christians
To punish you for spreading the slander that they are not, I have directed an Anne Hathaway model slapbot to track down and thrash Christian Bale.
Fair enough.
Original:
Let me re-write it"
This leads me to the conclusion that the pro choice movement has influenced many women (and men) to incur a karmic penalty by causing them to deny reality and their very beings to the point that they can not even consider another point of view, they are not incapable of it and state that it is not understandable (needed to protect themselves).
But how do you baptize a zygote?
I’m wondering what, if any, answers would have led you to any other conclusions. Especially when many responses were telling you how poorly you wrote the question.
Forget it Jake, it’s Kanicbird town.
Use a syringe?
So, faced with the evidence in this thread that many people do not feel a need for prayer for the unborn’s well being, and remembering that women are people, would you consider it acting with loving compassion to provide that prayer against the will of the mother? Is that showing understanding and respect, or is that asking her to hide her wants and feelings?
And if God is Love, then what well being are you concerned with on behalf of the unborn? If they’re back with God, then they’re with Love, no? Seems about as well as a Being can get to me.