if left alone - that ingot of steel will remain an ingot of steel for all eternity.
Not so true for a fertilized egg, zygote, embryo, fetus, etc.
Which is entirely irrelevant - since there is no indication - until the fetus is ejected from the core - if said fetus will be a functioning person.
Which is still irrelevant to whether or not the state has a compelling interest in making sure that all fetus’ get that chance.
It seems to me the plaintiffs more or less duped the court, or duped the credulous liberal faction while giving the conservative faction an excuse to make a favorable ruling. They did so by using a sympathetic-looking plaintiff and describing as “counseling” something that most people wouldn’t recognize as counseling.
So long as the blender is securely covered, the baby should’t be much of a threat. Unless it’s possessed by demons. Under no circumstances should you blend a demonically possessed baby.
If left alone, the zygote will dry out and die.
If left in the mother it may mature.
True dat.
I am always committed to dismissing stupid analogies. A cluster of cells that self divide and differentiate is not like a ingot of iron in any meaningful sense. So no, most reasonable people would not agree it’s nonsense.
What corpse rights are us living people missing out on?
We have to stop those fetuses before it’s too late!
Not much, really. I mean, shooting a corpse would be a much lesser charge than shooting a person. Alas, inevitably we’ll all die. If we’re going by an argument of “what will this thing be propelled into being?” or “if left alone…” as simster points out, it’s the logical conclusion, though.
You may believe what you would like. The stupid thing is assuming that because a fetus will become a person, if its mother keeps working on it, that it is a person the whole time.
If being a person is valuable, then the value happens when it is a person.
Dismissal of debts is a nice one. 
But I didn’t say that and even Bricker sort of lawyered up how he suggested it.
You might want to look into that a little before you apply for corpse status. lol.
Though I have alays wanted to say: I don’t quite get some pro-lifers. If there was a house down the street where I knew for a fact was murdering babies in the basement, I sure as shit wouldn’t just yell “baby killed” at them. I wouldn’t just send letters to my congressman. If the police wouldn’t stop them I would go in there with a gun. So I have always kind of doubted their honesty when they say they want think a fetus IS a person. At least, the one’s that don’t shoot abortion doctors.
There are pro-life atheists.
Are you a supporter of the death penalty?
I’m taking that phrase from Casey v. Planned Parenthood.
And there are pro-choice Catholics. So what?
Why do you ask? Are you equating using deadly force to stop multiple murders in progress with the death penalty??
That is absolutely revolting.
The difference is that I made no claims about religious motivation at all. You did.
Presumably he’s trying to say if you’re not, you should be shooting up prisons. Because criminals being killed is the same as babies.
This is a silly argument he’s making, because it presumes that innocents being killed and criminals being killed for cause, in much, much smaller numbers, are equally outrageous.
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Just wondering about how deeply you’ve thought about “If there was a house down the street where I knew for a fact was murdering babies in the basement, I sure as shit wouldn’t just yell “baby killed” at them…”
If you were morally opposed to the death penalty, I was going to point out that prisons are executing people, and you manage to avoid storming their gates.
I was going to further point out that this forbearance probably arises because even though you believe the executions to be a moral wrong, you also understand that the people carrying out the executions are acting within the law, and do not believe themselves to be doing wrong. So even if you believed that the state execution of criminals amounted to murder, there are good reasons to avoid taking matters into your own hands.
And having thus opened your eyes to this paradigmatic shift in thinking, I would finally, if somewhat anti-climatically, use that example to illustrate how pro-lifers are sincere but manage to avoid storming the clinic battlements.
But not knowing your position on the death penalty, I’ll just skip all that and directly point out that people working in abortion clinics are are acting within the law, and do not believe themselves to be doing wrong, factors which mitigate strongly against taking direct violent action against them.