A book isn’t a human, a tree isn’t a human, a paper clip isn’t a human, a dog isn’t a human. Yes, genius, that is correct.
HOWEVER, a fetus is a fucking human. If it is not a human what the fuck is it?
You’re delusional or just really really stupid or both.
Do you live in the land of fairies where unicorns and “becoming a human exist.”
The fetus is created by 2 humans. The offspring of two humans can be nothing but a HUMAN:smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:
This is the most ridiculous argument used by pro-abortionists I have ever see,
We are all familiar with animal right activists right? If you abuse an animal you can be charged with animal cruelty. Why is it that an animal, which is clearly non-human has more rights than a fetus which is a human?
Some pro-choicers says the fetus is a potential person. Why is it ok that an animal should have more rights than a human or a so-called “potential person?”.
Well, if I made an incorrect statement and attributed a position to you that you don’t actually hold, I’d prefer (and I would expect you would, too) to clear that up before moving on. Unless, you were planning on playing, “Gotcha” later on with my incorrect statement.
So, was I wrong? Did you not say, or do you not believe, that abortion was murder? Answer that an we can move on.
Because there’s a gulf of difference between “potential” and “actual”, maybe?
I ate an apple this morning. Did I eat a tree? No, I ate a potential tree. That doesn’t mean I should be seen as some tree-eating weirdo.
I also jacked off, killing millions of potential humans, all full of life and dreams and batshit opinions nobody else gives a crap about.
Well that’s good. I agree with that. But just so you know, when you say things like this:
it appears you are assuming she purposefully chose pregnancy through her actions. To a lot of people, that seems like punishing a woman for having sexual intercourse and that attitude is quite objectionable on so many levels.
Just so you know.
It’s against the law to abort an animals fetus? Who’s arguing for protecting the animal fetus? What law terms abortion as abuse of a fetus?
Why not try comparing *born *living beings when looking for equity in the law? Then come back and show us how animals have more rights than people.
By the way, did notice I’m still waiting for you to jump back into our discussion? You didn’t like the fact that I noted you weren’t capable of responding and I thought you’d want to prove me wrong. Just trying to give you ample opportunity to clarify your position. For your review and discussion.
Thanks for the visual:rolleyes:
We’ve been though this before. A sperm is not a potential human.
Jesus is quoted as saying," How can you say you love the God you don’t see,but hate the neighbor you do see". The psalmist says" I say you are gods and sons of the most high" Jesus backed this up when accused of blasphemy.
What about the apple, though? All the bits are there, you just need to leave it.
No, but according to you a fertilized ovum is a human. That means, then, that every mense of a sexually active female and every miscarriage must be investigated to determine if the death of the human is accidental or intentional.
But we all know you’re not going to advocate that ridiculous position, meaning that you really don’t consider a fertilized ovum to actually be a human.
If the brain isn’t developed it is not yet a baby,The brain dead person is declared dead and could be recognized as a human body. One cannot look at a few cells and say it looks like a baby! In very early stages of a developing human it is difficult to tell if it is a human or, a fish or a tad pole!
There have been babies born with out a brain but they didn’t live very long. /a very hard thing on the parents!
It isn’t ‘a ’ human, it will become a human person after it develops into one. Just as an acorn’ will’ become a tree. It contains human life just as the sperm has human life, but in your argument it could be said,’ many human lives are lost with each ejaculation even if a conception takes place’.
A fertilized egg is a POTENTIAL human, but is not yet a human.
I think you misunderstood his analogy- an acorn is a potential oak, as it has everything it needs to grow into an oak. You may disagree with the conclusion, but the analogy wasn’t so out of whack as your reply suggested.
Now if you got that and you meant something utterly different than your reply suggested to me, never mind.
Which is in line with Jewish law and teachings as well.
Thanks for sharing that:rolleyes:
Funny, I don’t LOOK Jewish.
For what it’s worth, I was raised mostly as a Protestant Christian, as was my mother. My father was raised as a Catholic, but although he believed in many of the things Catholics believe, he didn’t go to church except for things like weddings and funerals. After I was an adult, my mother converted to Catholicism. And I witnessed my parents getting married in the Catholic church.
Yes- but do you like bagels and cream cheese? Deli food?
That’s the critical test, after all!
As I have asked three times before, and you have studiously refused to answer, if you view a fetus as fully human with full rights, why don’t you support treating abortion as premeditated murder with the same weight of the law? Life sentences or the death penalty for the mother and doctor (as the best comparison would be a contract killing); life sentences for the parents of the 14 year old who drive her to the clinic; life sentences for the charity workers who give the scared kid the number of a clinic?
And why do you support exemptions for the mother’s health which don’t exist for murdering an adult?