*MacIsaac, who was not involved in Peipert’s research, described the CHOICE project as “the most powerful study we have of what works: education of the methods and free access.”
The state of Colorado has also found this to be true. After handing out free IUDs and implants to teens and poor women over six years, the statewide teen birthrate dropped 40 percent from 2009 to 2013, while the abortion rate dropped 42 percent. The results were especially dramatic in the state’s poorest regions, The New York Times reported.
Despite the program’s stunning success, however, GOP members in Colorado’s state Senate failed to keep funding it when the money ran out in 2015. Colorado corrected this when Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) signed the state’s 2016 budget, however, providing $2.5 million for the program.*
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After the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) spent $25 million in pilot funding from a private foundation from 2009 through mid-2015, Republican legislators nixed CDPHE’s legislative efforts to secure public funding for the program for 2015, forcing the state to solicit private funds to keep it afloat, as chronicled in a January CDPHE report that offers a “comprehensive narrative about Colorado’s experience with long-acting reversible contraception.”
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A private donor’s investment in the state health department’s family planning program allowed us to train health care providers, support family planning clinics and remove the financial barriers to women choosing the safest, most effective form of contraception.
Highlights
This initiative empowered thousands of Colorado women to choose when and whether to start a family.
Thanks in large part to the Colorado Family Planning Initiative: Teen birth rate was nearly cut in half. Teen abortion rate was nearly cut in half.
Births to women without a high school education fell 38 percent.
Second and higher order births to teens were cut by 57 percent.
Birth rate among young women ages 20-24 was cut by 20 percent.
Average age of first birth increased by 1.2 years among all women.
Rapid repeat births declined by 12 percent among all women. Costs avoided: $66.1-$69.6 million.
I take it you donate every available penny to buying antibiotics for 3rd world children.
You also go to war in white parts of the world. Stop trying to make this a race thing. It’s stupid. Besides, you do realise that, were abortion to be outlawed, about half the babies born as a result would be non-white, right? Proportionally speaking, POC get abortions considerably more often than whites. Why would a bunch of reactionary bigots who don’t care about black and brown children fight so hard to create more of them?
This. I don’t know why pro-lifers believe what they say they believe, but they can’t truly believe abortion is murder. If they did, they’d be killing abortionists en masse. Since they aren’t, their reasons must be different.
This is the best summary of the issue that I’ve seen, and it’s a concept that I often bring up myself, though nobody ever seems to listen to me. These people need to either back up their rhetoric with the proper action to take when people who you supposedly care about are being murdered - which they won’t, except for the, what, .001% of anti-abortion people who actually carry out attacks - or admit that the truth is, there are ‘tiers’ of human life priority, with unborn humans occupying a place beneath born humans, which they also won’t.
“Twenty embryos are in one room and a live baby in the other room. The building is on fire and you can only save one room. Which do you save? The one living baby or the 20 frozen embryos?”
If you think an embryo is equal in worth to a live baby, obviously you will save the 20 embryos, as they have greater worth.
I’ve talked to many of the radical anti-abortion group. Much as they scream “adoption,” watch their reactions when you put “gay” in front of it. I’ve been told that gay parenting is child abuse, that all gay people are mentally ill, that my sister’s legally adopted daughters are not my “real” nieces and that my sister and her (legally wed) wife should have let two sisters go into foster care rather than talking them and their terminally ill mother into their home and then adopting them.
That’s actually a good thing. It suggests that you have a level of self-awareness that might somewhat belie the inanity of your posts. Keep trying, I’m totally pulling for you!
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[/recovering fundamentalist nitpick] The epistles dubbed Timothy I and II were written to Timothy, not from.So it’s (according to myth) Paul who was the mysogynist. [/rfn]
It’s also silly, and it’s something that no one is going to have actual experience with.
But the larger issue is that people struggle with these sorts of life or death decisions, and don’t always respond rationally or ethically, but often they respond emotionally or psychologically. Take the classic trolly problem: A trolly is heading towards 5 people, and you can pull a lever to divert the trolly so it only kills one person. Almost everyone will say they will pull the lever. But if you change it to where they have to push a person in front of the train in order to stop it killing the 5 people, fewer people will choose to take the action to save the 5 people. If all you do is look at it from a numbers point of view, there is no difference between the two situations.
The analogy is extreme because it focuses only on one part of the question, rather than having lots of caveats and stuff that make a straightforward answer easier to dither around.
There are other more realistic analogies that do map onto that one, but they bring up more side issues to be argued.
Lets take, for example, the case where someone goes to a fertility doctor, and rather than using proper protocols, instead uses his own sperm to impregnate them.
Now, you discover not only this, but that he has done it to 19 other women, who are all still in early stage of pregnancy.
You know that if the women find out that they were lied to, and effectively raped, they will want to terminate their pregnancies.
Do you say anything?
I would argue that a devout pro-choicer would help the doctor to cover up his crimes, rather than participate in disclosing his actions and being the cause of women getting abortions.
Now, this sets up a similar scenario to Chimera’s, but by virtue of it being realistic and something that not only could, but has happened in real life, also has more distractions and ways of weaseling out of stating a moral choice and standing behind it.
For anyone interested, I would rat out the doctor, even if I knew that that meant that every one of the fetuses were terminated.
No, what’d be easier would be if you backed up your bullshit with an argument instead of hiding behind bluster like a little bitch. But that ain’t gonna happen any time soon now, is it?
And yeah. We. I’ve called you out three times and all you’ve done is deflect. You’ve got nothing, and it’s obvious. You’re a coward, and We fucking see you.