About Kennedy Prediction

Actually Jeane DIxon was right about Kennedy, that he would not win the 1960 presidential election. John Kennedy actually did not win the election, so to speak. John Kennedy’s father had bought the presidential election using mafia ties that he had, promises were made by Joe Kennedy to the heads of Mob figures in Boston, Philidelphia, and Chicago, and the deep South where Most of the election was rigged. This has been very well documented! So in real terms, he did not win the votes, they were fixed and that launched investigations that came to the surface after Bobby Kennedy was killed.
So, she was not wrong! He did not win the votes to make him president, but he was still put into office, in a similar fashion as was other elections in the past.
So when she says he will not win, he didnt, but he will be killed in office, and he was.
SHe was also very involved with Roseavelt until his death in 1945, and in some form with Richard Nixon.

Hey! Welcome to the boards. What you should do, to help everyone follow along, is to post a link to the column you read.

Did psychic Jeane Dixon predict JFK’s assassination?

Can you answer a question for me----where did you find out about her relationship with President Roosevelt? I’ve not read this before. She would have been 27 at the time he died. Where or when did she first publish or tell this story?

You said she was “very involved with Roseavelt until his death in 1945”. Do you mean she was having an affair with him? Just how involved was she? Did she predict Pearl Harbour? If not, just what good was she?

Welcome to the boards!

One of the problems with deciding if psychic powers exist is when the psychic makes a general prediction, gets it wrong but then tries afterwards to justify it.

In this case, Kennedy won the election. He was elected President.
I don’t know much about your allegations of corruption, but even if they are true, Dixon was still wrong. She should have said ‘Kennedy will win the election, but using fraud’.

Also bear in mind that there’s not a lot of choice in a modern US Presidential election. Either the Democrat or the Republican nominee wins. In addition, there are plenty of opinion polls to give guidance. Even a non-psychic has a pretty good chance of predicting the outcome.

If these powers really exist, why don’t psychics do better? Is a disputed prediction made 46 years ago really the best evidence that something paranormal exists? :confused:

Welcome, alcondragon. Since you’re a guest and can’t search, here’s a previous thread on this subject that may be of interest: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=368057

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I’m glad you mention Nixon, who himself refused to consider asking for a recount in two critical states–Texas and Illinois. Or maybe you’re one of those who are sore, 46 years after the fact, that Nixon lost.
Are you willing tio suggest that Nixon maneuvered things in 1972–or even 1968–so he would win?
“Success is a matter of luck; ask any failure.” :rolleyes:

Note that she did NOT predict he would fail to win the election (as alcondragon posits) but that he would fail to win the presidency. He obviously won the presidency, even if you think he didn’t “really” win the popular vote.

And history repeats itself.

Too bad 2003 wasn’t a repeat of 1963.

Now hold on, I was just saying that history repeated in that a winner of the presidency may not have been the winner of the popular vote. Wishes like that quote are really more for the Pit, neh?

Moderator interjects: Let’s keep this focused on past predictions, OK? **Annie[b/], that kind of comment is out of line.

Interesting that “psychics” don’t predict very far into the future using the names of candidates. She would never have added in 1960 that Johnson would beat Goldwater in 1964.

Probably not, considering that Goldwater got only 10 votes in the Republican convention in 1960.
I doubt that she could have predicted that Johnson would even be nominated for the vice-presidency in 1960, let alone succeed after Kennedy’s assassination.
In fact, according to a newsletter published in 1966 (simliar to Junior Scholastic) she had predicted that a tall, young Democrat would be elected president in 1960 and that he would meet with violent death during his term of office. When Kennedy became President, she warned him not to take a trip to the South.

Bolding mine. It’s always easy to make a prediction after the fact. :stuck_out_tongue: Her actual words ": “As for the 1960 election Mrs. Dixon thinks it will be dominated by labor and won by a Democrat. But he will be assassinated or die in office ‘though not necessarily in his first term.’” Nothing about “tall” or “young” and in fact she said it would not be Kennedy.

[shrug]
Well, I’m just quoting the article. I regret not having it…I did in fact save quite a few mementoes from that era. (I graduated from high school in 1967.)
Besides, who else would likely be nominated? Johnson? Hubert Humphrey? James Roosevelt? Pat Brown?
And she did warn Kennedy himself…

Adlai Stevenson and Stuart Symington both made attempts to gain the nomination in 1960, and there were quite a few other Democratic politicians who were given consideration during the period between the 1956 and 1960 elections.

Oh, and the only reason she said that the president elected in 1960 would die is because of that old supposed curse.

She wasn’t even being original.

[Oh My!, Wether you beleive in them or not, there are too many facts to deny. If you should chose to leave an opinion then you should first research much of what has happened and not just from one book lol. Read your history and find that Joe Kennedy worked with high end underworld figures that made possible the position of office for his son. It was his brother as Attorney general that caused his undoing. But Jeane Dixon had been working with political leaders since the 1940’s. Even after Kennedy’s death she worked with Richard Nixon and so on. Doesn’t that tell you something might be for real?

Um. :confused:

The facts are that Kennedy won both the election and the Presidency.
If Dixon meant fraud somehow didn’t count as winning, why didn’t she say so?

What do you mean exactly when you say Dixon worked with political leaders?

Even if political leaders asked her for prediction, no it doesn’t mean anything. Political leaders have consulted psychics, astrologers and espoused all sorts of New Age pseudo-science. There’s still no evidence for any of these things.

Dogshit is real, but I wouldn’t want to roll around in it.

Then cite a few of them, why don’t ya?

That’s the way we do things around here. Not just vague assertions that “there are facts”, but actual referances to these ‘facts’.