Absolute stupidity [about Baldwin's suspension]

He was warned for it, so leaving it off - while most of the other warnings were for another issue - didn’t seem necessary. I’m sorry you find the argument illogical, but it’s not exactly unheard of for a man to insult another man by calling him a woman. It’s a staple of the high school student’s repertoire, for starters. :wink:

Psst… there’s a post in Cafe Society where somebody calls a book a kike!

Friggin’ hate speech!

Go bust 'em, Duddley.

I edited the thread title to make it a bit more descriptive.

Gfactor
Moderator

Insults of any flavor aren’t allowed outside the Pit, and they never have been.

As for your other bit, he had already mentioned it twice before. I think it was pretty obvious he was advertising the place, especially in that second post I linked to. His overreaction to being asked to follow the same rules as everyone else is on his head and no one else’s.

That’s pretty silly considering that this board doesn’t appear to be melting down. Aside from that, even, asking people to follow the rules is hardly an “hysterical overreaction”. Even if a person disagreed with the new Pit rules, that doesn’t give them license to break the rules in ATMB or any other forum.

There are many links to other boards in these two threads (SomethingAwful, Urban75, ChurchofGroove, etc):

It does not appear that they met these standards, and none of them were edited or warned by a mod for mentioning them. Neither OP says they received permission to open the thread. So why the difference?

SkipMagic, thanks for those links. It’s now obvious to me too. Not having seen those links and having seen his first warning without their context, it seemed like an unjustified slapdown. I’m glad to know it wasn’t.

C K Dexter Haven’s talking about self-promotion and advertising, not the occasional conversational link to a board or site that holds something of interest. If we feel a person is promoting a board, we ask that they stop and clear it with us beforehand.

ETA: That was in response to XJETGIRLX.

I’m confused. You agree that he was looking to be suspended, but you think the specific reasons that he was suspended were unjustified? So your only argument is that they should have waited until he violated board rules more blatantly?

So if someone were to start a thread asking what other boards have sprung up in relation to the SDMB, from a conversational standpoint, links to these other boards would be allowed?

I’m just having some difficulty understanding the fine line between talking about another site/product/anything and “advertising” said site/product/anything. Regardless of whether it was a link or text or whatever, I didn’t see Baldwin’s post as advertising, I saw it as a casual mention in passing conversation.

Re-read, please. I only think that one of the given reasons was unjustified. Not to mention silly.

I think the problem is that he kept finding excuses to drop this in casual conversation. We have grilled posters for this before. If every post you make is about your gun, your girlfriend, your boobs, your wedding, your pregnancy or your cat, someone will pit you. (ok, maybe not your cat). The admin cannot pit you, so they warn/suspend/ban.

I don’t see why not. We have one active thread going now with such links (the first link in your previous post), and as far as I can see, no links were squashed. There have been other such threads in the past, with links to Una’s board, Fathom, Elmwood’s refuge board, etc…

I think repetitiveness is a good hint for whether someone is promoting a board versus merely mentioning it–especially if links are thrown in posts where they have no relevancy. In this specific case, as I mentioned upthread, Baldwin had already linked to the board twice before, with that second link being a clear indication he was promoting it. His third link–and the point in which I jumped in–may have been relevant (although, I personally disagree), but he had already shown that he had a promotional agenda.

Eh, I disagree that this is the same situation. And really I was hoping someone would answer this in an official capacity. I’m just trying to understand whether it was the way in which the link was posted, or the link itself that was the problem.

And on Edit I see that Skip has answered, thanks.

Ah, I apologise then. I didn’t think he’d be silly enough to insult the Ed Honcho outside of The Pit. My mistake.

Objection withdrawn. :slight_smile:

What is it with all the damn REASONABLENESS in this thread?! And Sapo agreeing with an admin decision?! This place is going to the dogs!

:slight_smile:

:wink:

it has happened before.

What’s this “we,” kemo sabe?

He stole one of the Capybaras and has it in his pocket. :stuck_out_tongue:

We, the people.

(and we are not amused)

Well, the notion of promoting reasonableness in discussions about moderator actions, and a reasonable level of civility (even in the Pit) was Ed’s main impetus for changes. I’m actually very pleased by these examples that, despite the furor, it can work.

I’ve said before, and I’ll doubtless say again, that when one perceives and unfairness and is trying to address it, the personal insults don’t help. That’s why it’s better to have such discussions in ATMB, with no insults whatsover, rather than … elsewhere.