Acceptance of Homosexuality leads to the Collapse of Civilization?

I assume that you’re asking a rhetorical question, as a way to stimulate debate, but I’ll have a go.

If little Jimmy expresses a desire to as another boy to the dance, his hetero parents may react in a number of different ways:

  1. That’s nice son, have a good time. Don’t forget a condom!

  2. Oh dear! The other kids will tease him at the very least, and maybe worse. I don’t want my son to be hurt either emotionally or physically by those who will judge him. This is going to be difficult.

  3. Oh my God! Why are you hurting your mother like this? Why did you chose this lifestyle? What did we do wrong? What will the neighbors think? Look at your father! You’re killing him!

  4. We’re going to get you the help you need right away. Rev. Smith has a de-gayification program that would be just perfect for you.

  5. Get out of my house right now you little $%^&! No son of mine is going to be a fairy! I have no son!

If by contrast, little Jimmy is raised by homosexual parents, and expresses a desire to take a girl to the dance, then they will react:

  1. That’s nice son, have a good time. Don’t forget a condom!

2 Will not be a problem, because nobody is going to beat Jimmy up for being straight.

3 Is unlikely, as a gay couple will know that Jimmy did not chose to be straight, much as they did not choose to be gay. They won’t try to guilt trip him about his sexuality.

4 Should not be an issue because there is nobody out there with a program to force straights to be gay, and gay people know that it would be stupid to try (and they know it would not work anyway).

5 Just would not happen. No gay couple would hate their child for expressing a straight sexuality.

Well what about those man-hating feminazi lesbians that are taking over America? Are they gonna stand calmly by while their daughter entertains thoughts of being penis-raped? I’m shocked at the casual lack of concern I’m seeing around here.

Couple of my friends are lesbians and just had their second kid. The first was a girl; when they found out the second was a boy, they made a couple of wry jokes about having to read up on boy parts. The jokes were self-deprecating, making fun of themselves for not knowing enough about boys–but of course they’re both wonderful parents.

And the idea that they’d be flummoxed if their kids are straight is absurd. Straight people can easily grow up ignoring the existence of gay people and pretending like they have no gay relatives or friends. Gay people absolutely cannot do that. They’ve spent their lives around straight people. Their own parents are probably straight, most of their other family members are straight, most of the people they know are straight. Why would they be surprised if their kid were straight, too?

Because apparently in addition to be fabulous, gay people have really short memories.

Regarding the OP: The downfall of US society is the collapse of the family unit by way of “divorce on demand”. You could argue it’s just too easy to get married, but the end result is people arent staying together. (Values on commitment have become almost non-existent regardless of religion, I’d say it’s a discipline thing in general)

Anyway, I dont see any reason gay people shouldnt be just as miserable and straight married couples so have at it, I say.

There is a Gay Mafia, I know that much. People have gay acceptance forced on them under the threat of being branded as homophobes and losing their jobes, their livelihoods & reputation.

And I agree with you, althlough I wouldn’t single out availability of divorce as the sole cause of this erosion.

Blame Ronald Reagan. When governor of California, he signed the first “no fault divorce” law in the U.S.

Oh? And who are the members of this Mafia? Surely such a influential body must have the equivalent of a Bugsy Siegel or Sam Giancana or Al Capone.

They work behind the scenes, from the shadows.

So name one.

Uh-huh… maybe you and this guy can hammer out the details.

Y’know, I thought for sure that was going to be a link to an old photo of Joe McCarthy.

I doubt it.
There might be a few rare places where being identified as a homophobe will cause mild distress, (perhaps Hollywood?), but there is no place where anyone is going to lose a job for being straight. (Unless, of course, you are simply noting that homophobes who blatantly insult people are liable to lose jobs because they have made a point to publicly embarrass their customers, their bosses, or their fellow employes with their bigotry.)

I also note that you keep jumping around from one unsupported wild claim to another.

You have already caught the attention of the staff for such behavior. You might want to consider actually selecting a point in which you truly believe and attempting to support it with evidence rather than abandoning your toss-away lines whenever they are challenged.

[ /Moderating ]

Are they in cahoots with anyone? Tell me they’re in cahoots!

Where can I join?

He’s right. Haven’t you ever heard of their fairy Godfather?

(h/t to Robert Asprin)

He later admitted it was one of the worst decisions he ever made. To be fair the general consensus among the nation was for it, evidenced by every state following in it’s California’s steps (I imagine this was the selling point by progressives) - and it’s still very popular. You wont find many arguing to restrict divorce. Especially woman.

It’s really not something to blame on one person.

True. One saturday night, on the subway, I had a quiet chuckle at a really flamboyant guy coming back from a club, glittered from head to toe. He looked at me disapprovingly, but said nothing.
When I woke up the next day, my entire appartment had been redecorated, and there was a basket of scented soap on my pillow :eek:.

I never heard of him making any statements along those lines. It would be irrational of him - no-fault divorce is a very sane, justifiable and proper piece of legislation that treats citizens like adults who can choose to end marriages they don’t want any more without having to jump though some pointless legal hoops like claiming a “wink-wink” pretense of “mental cruelty” or some such thing.

Can I blame you? Nothing personal, it’s just for laughs.