Looks like everyone’s here, now it’s time to pull this last control rod ou-
BAMF
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Ahh that’s better. Whew.
I imagine that Bizarro Bricker and Bizarro Diogenes would use such a tear to infiltrate our world. They would immediately lead us from the brink of a complete breakdown in partisan debate as we have now, and usher in a new era of thoughtful, considerate discussions. They would have the top rated Sunday morning show with a 90% share, where they would intelligently debate the latest issues in measured, calm tones and eventually meet a meaningful compromise, weighing the pros and cons along the way. They wouldn’t waste time with pettiness, hyperdetailed legal analysis, raising minor discrepencies the other said from years ago, and idiotic partisan hackery weakly disgused as “great debates”.
And I’d get a pony.
Agreed, however by Dio’s logic they are non-partisan because they’re officially non-partisan.
Obviously lots of groups claim to be non-partisan to protect their tax-exempt status, but in reality they’re obviously not.
Crap, it didn’t work. Time to start pumping in the seawater.
Obviously. As in clearly evident by their actions. Which are what?
They’ve supported various left-wing causes.
Such as?
Name one.
Universal suffrage? Participatory democracy? Civil liberties?
I hear they suppoprted abolition too.
See?! Left-wing causes!
BULL. SHIT.
Listen, Dio, one fine day FAIR and the fucking Minutemen are going to get popped for paying per registration when they’re also pushing a petition to eliminate jus soli citizenship. I want to be able to nail them to the wall when that happens, and I’d like to have you by my side in the jury box (metaphorically speaking).
If you insist that it’s irrelevant, you pre-emptively recuse yourself from that mission.
Bricker, yes, I join Bryan Ekers in noting that you have achieved a victory over a group of the obstinate and vocal, as personified by Dio. I found it distasteful to watch, though, right from your OP, and to be candid I found it worse when you made your first response to a “You’re better than this” post.
If an apostate from the Faith may be allowed an observation, it occurs to me that NEXT year, this might be the kind of thing you want to consider giving up for Lent.
Jesus Christ, we’re already on page NINE? I am SO fucking far behind in this thread, I wonder if I should bother.
Why are you asking since by your definition the Club for Growth, the Christian Coalition and the NRA are also non-partisan organizations?
Or have you flip-flopped and do you think they are partisan organizations?
Like a train derailing into a joint kindergarden/puppy factory it just keeps getting better.
Anyone remotely familiar with them would classify them as left-wing unless they were either extremely stupid or trying to deliberately mislead you. They grew out of the Welfare Rights movement, during the 90s campaigned hard against the Republicans Contract with America which they labeled “The Contract on America” as well as legislation aimed at welfare reform, which they labeled an “attack on people’s welfare rights” and part of the government’s “war on the poor”.
They also have lobbied hard against school vouchers, strongly supported gun control regulations, supported increased social spending.
Moreover, they’ve lobbied hard for all sorts of regulations on banking institutions to prevent them from foreclosing on people.
In short, as I said, they are non-partisan in the same way that the Christian Coalition is non-partisan.
I’ve never heard of the Club for Growth, but I don’t believe the CC ever claimed to be non-partsan. They literally wrote the Republican platform a couple of times. Thoise are political activist groups anyway. ACORN was not.
Cite?
The Club for Growth is decidedly partisan, and they don’t make any bones about it.
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The Christian Coalition, as Dio points out, is also a partisan organization, and they don’t try to hide it. Check out the first sentence on their “about us” page:
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You’re batting 0 for 2 on your own examples. Like Bricker, maybe you should just shut up now before you dig yourself deeper into your own hole.
ACORN is partisan in much the same way as those others, sure. One reason I support them, they are partisan in the same way I am, they are pulling on the same end of rope.
Is ACORN’s effort entirely innocent of political intent? Of course not, not any more than the Christian Cotillion or Club for Gross. Anybody know of any efforts by those worthy organization to expand voter registration amongst the disenfranchised and disadvantaged? How many such drives have we heard of from the Heritage Foundation or American Enterprise, organizations loudly devoted to democracy, if not necessarily equality?
The naive left believes that if we educate the people, listen to the people, and empower the people, that is the best opportunity for our preferred results. By a happy coincidence, empowering the people is the very beating heart of American patriotism, it is the meaning itself, it is what “the American dream” really means. It is an odd sort of political faith, one that is half Otto von Bismarck, half Pollyanna.
Of course, it is a fact, enfranchising and empowering the economically disadvantaged works in favor of the Democrats. Well, really…who’s fault is that?
Well, that didn’t work either. Remember folks, canned food, extra ammo, and head uphill!