You’re something else. I complain about people not admitting their error when it’s a back-and-forth discussion, quoting of posts included, that goes on for pages and pages.
In “rebuttal” you manage to dredge up a single instance where you conclude I must have seen two posts, because I posted in the thread after they were made?
Sheesh.
Arguing facts not in evidence.
There was a time. sigh
So your position is that they did not, in fact, pay employees per registration?
What evidence would you need to see to convince you that they did?
It takes more than facts to cause the SDMB to change its collective mind.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Regards,
Shodan
Not in evidence for some months, at the least.
Yeah, this.
Of course, if it succeeds by implication in suggesting that ACORN was to some extent the nefarious organisation that it was portrayed to be by certain unscrupulous right-wingers, well…Bricker certainly can’t be held responsible for that. Just as (for example) in this post he couldn’t be responsible for people misunderstanding which person he was referring to.
It is possible to speak only the truth and still be arguing in bad faith.
Exactly. Bricker, I can’t tell if you don’t understand the point that’s being made here (not by Dio, but by folks like Gyrate and Bryan Ekers), or if you’re simply hoping that if you ignore it long enough, you won’t have to address it.
Or, to put it another way, this is the declarative form of Just Asking Questions (which would be Just Sayin’, I suppose).
Yes, ACORN paid piecework for voter registration. That isn’t legal in that jurisdiction and they shouldn’t have done that. Was the intent to register ineligible voters? No. Wat there intent to deprive others of their right to vote? No. As sins go, I’d consider this most venial.
Now compare that to the actions of the former Ohio Secretary of State. Tossing out voter applications because they were on forms with the incorrect weight of paper was indeed intent to deprive others of their right to vote. Compare that to states that unfairly distribute voting machines in an attempt to curtail minority voting.
If you jump up and down in glee over the speck of dust in ACORN’s eye, yet ignore the planks in the GOP’s eye, then you’re a mindless partisan or an asshole. Or more likely, both.
Where did I say that? I don’t remember saying that. Do you remember me saying that?
No, what I *actually *said is that making a plea bargain was cheaper than fighting the charges. I realize you’re bound and determined to find ACORN guilty of something, anything, to excuse the way your party demonized them, but this is incredibly weak tea.
Hell, for all I know, they actually did do it. However, assuming that this plea bargain implies that they’re guilty is a huge leap of faith given the circumstances. And before you try to claim that I’d be braying for blood if ACORN had been a Republican version, you can just nip that in the bud. I might enjoy a bit of schadenfreude were that the case, but I certainly wouldn’t be claiming that it excused the witchhunt the organization went through.
This is the break the McCain campaign has been waiting for.
Where did Bricker say that? I don’t remember Bricker saying that. Do you remember Bricker saying that?
Regards,
Shodan
So implying hypocrisy on the part of his opponents is not something Bricker does, such that a preemptive “No, I’m not being hypocritical” is terribly unreasonable?
I didn’t say **Bricker **claimed that. Reading comprehension really isn’t your strong suit, is it?
What’s next, “I know you are but what am I”?
Ah, but Lightnin’, you need to realize that these folks know better than you do yourself how you would act in any given hypothetical.
Hey, you people say what you like about Bricker, but it’s pretty impressive that a four year old managed to get a law degree. 
Actually, yes you did.
On reflection, I am arguing with someone who claims that, even if ACORN admits it and is convicted, we still cannot assume they are guilty. So I guess it is not much of a stretch to say that even if you said it, you still didn’t say it.
AKA we can recognize lies when we see them.
If this were a Republican organization, that is exactly what he would do.
Regards,
Shodan
See?
Don’t deny what you are really thinking Lightnin’
Shodan knows far,far better than you do what you think and how you would act in any given situation.
ETA: ACORN never replaces the toilet paper after using the last square.
He’s like a Jedi.
Sometimes I think Shodan reads the posts here as if they’re Magic Eye pictures, spending hours squinting at them until he sees what he’s looking for.
“IT’S A PICTURE OF A DOLPHIN, I TELL YOU!!!”