KGS, you are coming accross as completely insane. Wacky loony nutjob insane. I suggest you step away from the keyboard and get some help.
And guess why no one is willing to take your side?
Can you see it coming? That’s right!
BECAUSE IT IS STUPID. STOOO-PID.
Don’t worry, your thread might be closed later on. Just don’t expect to be able to curse out a moderator who’s just doing his job, only to then have another moderator close your deranged thread at your request, when the kitchen gets a little hot.
So Desmostylus, how do you like “playing” with me so far? 
Did I say with “me” ? :smack: I meant with Bottom Line. I was referring to your comment in the Colin Powell thread.
“…this insular cult of a message board…”
A quote from KGS’s most recent post above.
Sign number 1 of a meltdown, taking up a personal grievance with a moderator.
Sign number 2, and the start of a death spiral (a lot of longtime posters have taken up with a mod), insulting not just the posters who have piled on, not just the mod, not just the mods in general, but the entire SDMB.
KGS, please be sure to contact the Reverend Mykeru once you have made your enforced exit from this place. I’m sure the two of you will have a lot to talk about.
Well, And that’s the bottom line demonstrates an inability to separate one side of an argument from the other, and also a lack of understanding of simple concepts such as “meltdown”. You, on the other hand, seem to have trouble differentiating between yourself and someone else.
So, while And that’s the bottom line might just be stupid, you seem to be fucking crazy. 
Apparently not, since the moment you get a negative reaction, you went ballistic. Perhaps you are not as secure about your beliefs as you’ve deluded yourself into being?
You assume that people won’t take your side because you are superior to all of them… and ignore the possibility that nobody will take your side because your ideas are silly, the stuff of a children’s fairy tale.
I believe you will not explain why because you CANNOT explain why. I believe that you know, deep down, that your beliefs are hogswaggle, but you refuse to admit it to yourself, since that would require you growing a sense of maturity and losing your self-centered delusions of grandeur.
Because you act like a whiny little child whenever you’re challenged. That’s the trademark of insanity.
You’re a fucking little shit, you know that? I would recommend that you take your bullshit “look at me, I’m so different!” attention-whore beliefs, undilate your tightly-coiled sphincter, let loose those half-dozen telephone poles crammed into your rectum, and forcibly insert those idiocy-incarnate “beliefs” of your safely up and nuzzled with your colon.
Have a nice day, and a pleasant tomorrow.
Heh. After calming down a bit, and seeing what horror can be sparked by 1) a complete misunderstanding (i.e. Matrix movie = my religion = NOT!) and 2) accidentally posting a silly yet thought-provoking question in the wrong forum…
What’s funny is, if I were to tell you all…oh, fuck it. I’m not going to play this game anymore.
I’ll just sit here and watch. Bunch of wolves, you all are.
<Devil’s advocate>
It’s possible that there’s one person who gets a few genuinely predictive visions, but that these are sufficiently vague it’s very difficult to come up with a definitive test, and they get lost in the background noise. (There was a time when ‘little animals that live in you and make you sick’ was another untestable, whackjob theory.)
So, it’s possible that someone is precognitive, but can’t easily claim the Randi prize, or thinks it likely they are (though are open to be being disproved) but haven’t gathered enough evidence to be sure.
It is reasonable for everyone else to think they’re insane, but it’s always possible they’re right.
Oh wait, they lost, didn’t they. Still, at least it was a testable predicition. Has he admitted he might have been mistaken?
</Devil’s advocate>
We keep coming back to “Matrix” = movie Matrix, which in no way did I intend to imply, and which a lot of people were way too quick to assume.
As I said before, it’s amazing what hell can be caused by small tactical errors. “Butterfly Effect” and all that.
Yes, my personal worldview is unusual (at best) and yes, when someone enrages me (esp. manny with the “stupid” comment, no matter what he meant, that is a serious trigger and I admit that completely) I tend to say things without thinking about how they will be taken first. If nothing else, this is something I have learned tonight.
So…ratty, since you took the time to actually explain where I went wrong, and despite your uncalled for “deranged loser” comment…what do you suggest I do now?
Is it possible to let this all blow over and get on with our lives, or is it too late? Should I slink away and never come back? Seriously, your opinion please.
KGS, while I can’t necessarily agree with your worldview, let me give you a bit of friendly advice.
If you do want to discuss your personal beliefs, and you worry that if you recieve negative reaction to them, you react negatively back, take a deep breath and reread what you have read.
Look at your posts from the point of view of someone who hasn’t heard anything you’ve ever said.
while you may intend some threads in a lighthearted way, make sure you stick to a lighthearted formula.
If, compared to the general populace, your personal views might be described as “out there”, and yes, they are pretty out there, they will react with scorn. If you know that this reactio is forthcoming, keeping a cool head in your replies, and not diving off the deep end at every percieved insult and action won’t get you listened to, only more annoyed, and more reaction. It’s a perpetual anubis.
May I suggest a course of action?
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Apologise to Manny. While he may have overreacted a little bit, please acknowledge you overreacted more by opening this thread. The attacks on Manny and Veb aren’t going to win you any friends, nor make any real difference to the outcome of anything.
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Think twice, reread, look at from all points of view anything that you post that you feel that you will have to rigourously defend. Make sure the lighthearted stuff is in the right forum, and the serious stuff is in the right forum.
While I don’t agree with most of the things you post, I would rather see you explain them patiently, and listen to counter arguerments without flying off the handle, than see you self destruct as this thread is going.
Enjoy.
Let me get the trivia out of the way first.
Manhattan, if you ever find your way out here, I do believe I’ll join Guinastasia in her offer.
Polycarp, old friend, I had successfully avoided following any number of links in the Pizza Parlor to that website, only to be succorred into going there by you. Believe me, my friend, you will pay for that. Start atoning now! 
Now for the meat of the matter.
KGS, you say you have beliefs and a religion. OK, tell us about them, preferably in GD, although if the mods don’t mind this thread will do. Here’s what I want to see:
[ul][li]Where they come from.[/li][li]What moral obligations they entail.[/li][li]What you believe you and others must do to fulfill those moral obligations.[/li][li]What you actually do to fulfill those moral obligations.[/ul][/li]
“I have visions” alone is not, to me, a religion. What are you doing with those visions? If you were betting on the outcome of the Stanley Cup in order to give the money to charity, I am sorry. What were you planning on doing with the vision? To quote one of the texts of my religion, “faith without deeds is dead.”
Respectfully,
CJ
Yes I did. Can’t remember when (and too bleary-eyed and drained to read back through this whole mess) but I believe I alluded to that possibility in the OP that started this fucking mess.
And I did figure out what went wrong, or at least I have a few theories. Not that I’m willing to share them NOW, and certainly not HERE, good God no!!!
You know, you really are quite refreshingly mad.
KGS,
I’m actually interested in debating your worldview with you on these boards. If you are up for it, start a debate (at your own pace, take your time to plan what you want to say), and I promise that I will try to read and understand what you post. I may have to ask for clarifications, but I think it would be an interesting project for many on these boards to take part in.
TwistofFate, if you really want to hear and/or debate my theories, send me an email. (Click the “www” link to my homepage and you’ll find it there, somewhere.) As of this moment, I have no plans whatsoever to start over with a GD thread. Too dangerous. :eek:
(This applies to anyone else willing to debate in private, as well. Except the wolves. I can smell you now, so stay away.)
If you are not willing to put your beliefs up for public scrutiny, I’m afraid I see no reason to give them any more than such respect as my beliefs compel me to. You’ve behaved in a rude and insulting fashion when your beliefs are questioned. In all fairness, I know a lot of Christians who do that, not to mention a few Wiccans, Atheists, etc. Still, I have no interest in any private contact with you, although I really am interested in hearing more about your religion.
Respectfully, believe it or not,
CJ
Perhaps because you kept referring back to particular scenes and quoting particular lines of the movie in your first post?
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Ah, yes. I see we’re up on both our “Jurassic Park” and/or Terry Pratchett. Tell me, KGS, do you actually know anything at all that wasn’t covered in some recent work of fiction?
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And this, I think you will find, is really quite a valuable lesson. Because despite what your own personal brand of quantum theory would have you believe, things said can never be unsaid. No meteor will magically travel back in time to save you from making a complete ass of yourself, and no “trigger” will ever justify behaving like a spoiled child who’s been told to stop talking nonsense.
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Get some help. How many people have you talked to about your cosmic hockey predictions? And how many of these people are visible to the rest of the world?
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For the love of all you hold sacred, LEARN SOMETHING! Read a fucking book that doesn’t have pictures of spaceships on the cover! You obviously and admittedly know nothing about current scientific theory (or even obsolete scientific theory) beyond what you’ve managed to pick up from movies and TV, and you really expect to be taken seriously? And knowing nothing, and knowing you know nothing, you nevertheless feel perfectly justified in basing your premise of belief on otherwise scientific principles? gobear named some great authors- run to your local library and read.
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Get the fuck over yourself. You are not special, you are not “different”, you are not some misunderstood genius struggling in a cruel world filled with stupid unfeeling people who will one day be awed and amazed by your powers of perception. Sorry. You’re just some wacko on a message board who acts like a whiny brat when someone, god forbid, dares to ask him to back up his assertions with facts.
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Lay off manhattan. He’s doing his job, and doing a damn fine piece of work. He may be a bit…abrupt at times, but he knows what he’s doing. You should listen to him. Not because he’s a moderator, but because he knows stupidty when it starts calling him names and shitting all over the board. Be told.
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Apologize. Now, and often. And don’t expect anyone to accept it right off the bat, because you’ve pissed off a lot of people around here. Especially with your 9/11 comments. Really. You earned that ire. I would ask you how you even dare to say such a thing, but that’s not going anywhere with you, is it? So instead I’ll just ask you to think very, very hard about why that might have been a very stupid thing to say.
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I don’t know. Some Dopers will never forgive you. Some Dopers will forgive almost anything as long as you show willing and try real hard not to be such a terrible person. And probably the vast majority of Dopers couldn’t give a shit less about you either way and are just hanging around to see if this is going to be one of the really classic board melt-downs.
Hey, And that’s the bottom line:
“Meltdown” is the term commonly used here when someone flips out (often in the Pit) and goes completely off his or her rocker. Looks like KGS melted down, to me. The line right before the meltdown quote also fits with the theme of the prophecy that he shared with us.
manhattan: Where do I sign up for the new petition?
KGS: You know, most people who believe that visions and prophecy exist and are real would probably laugh at the thought that a gold and black meteor - somehow mostly deflected by people of the world joining together, not that any of them reported on feeling the need to do so yet - broke up and somehow caused the Challenger explosion, the Rhode Island nightclub fire, and the Mighty Ducks to win (whoops, lose) the championship.
I’m being serious here. Think about this for a second. You are asking us to believe in a gift of prophecy that does not place as priority telling you about the explosion of a space shuttle, or a huge nightclub fire, but instead decides to wait around to tell you who will win the hockey game tonight. (Never mind that it was wrong, that’s not the point right now.) Thinking about it?
All right, now consider this - what kind of a gift is that, which ignores as unimportant the loss of so many lives, preferring instead to give you sports results?
Right. Now consider manhattan’s reaction to that. Is this vision that does not save lives, does not even tell you the correct sports results, worth insulting him by telling him that his name - picked well before 2001 - is dishonoring those who died on 9/11, or the other nasty things you slung at him for merely closing your thread and saying that this belief was stupid?
You might want to consider what such a “prophecy” really means, if it values mere sports (or the potential for wealth if you bet on them) over human lives, and then tricks you in the end anyway.
Ryle Dup, to address your question as a non-mod, it is generally OK to attack the Post, not the Poster, in GQ.
KGS when I said it went wrong when you took notes, I meant the delusional rantings of a nut can be changed at whim depending on actual real-life circumstances. If you had not written it down, you could have changed the outcome of that black-gold orb thing to suit reality and claimed all along that the Devils were to win.
But please continue, we haven’t had a REALLY good meltdown in a long time.