Adolf Hitler

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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How can anyone in their right mind defend this man?

I was on another message board where this girl posted about her controlling boyfriend. After discussing with her about what she should do, this guy who I’ve seen around the boards frequently starting chiming in. I knew this person too, he would PM me and talk about the meds that he was on for some unknown reason.
Apparently he too was controlling towards his girlfriend so while I was saying this girl is a victim, he’s saying that her boyfriend is the real victim here. How can any guy who degrades his girlfriend, tells her what to wear, who to hang out with and how to act, be a victim?

Somewhere amongst this discussion he starts talking about how Hitler is also a victim because no one loved him. He called Hitler a “starved little child” because his parents didn’t love him and he grew up in a Jewish Orphanage. I said that the bastard should have been put in the gas chamber to see what it felt like to be put to death simply for just living.

This guy who I was arguing with then said that I had no empathy or human compassion towards Hitler. Well durr, obviously. He then started going off saying that serial killers and rapists do evil things because they’re “hurt” and they’re “victims” of society.

I can’t for the life of me understand people like this.

Did they go to school? Did they read anything at all about history?

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It makes me feel rather dissillusioned that there are people out there like that. His grandfather’s best friends might have been killed by the Nazis and he is defending them(it really makes me cringe when I see russian skinheads - most of them know at least one person who fought in the war). As far a Hitler being unloved - well a lot of us are unloved no excuse to abuse girlfriends or murder people. It is however a perfect excuse to stop being a jerk so people would love you more :slight_smile:

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It never makes sense to argue with an idiot or a crazy person, so I just plow right in with sarcasm.

“Are you saying Hitler wasn’t responsible for his crimes?”

“If Hitler can’t be responsible, is there any human being who ever lived who can be?”

“I’ve had some personal problems too. How many people can I kill?”

After a few of those, the other person usually just walks away – which is what I wanted.

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Rational thought and a grasp of history are two things that these types don’t have.

I’d suggest trying to educate him, but that’d be a bit like beating your head against a brick wall.

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Hitler had a very close relationship with his mother and after she died he hung her picture over his bed for the rest of his life. His father was physically abusive, but I think that was normal back then. And when did he grow up in a Jewish orphanage? He lived in some homeless shelters when he was a teen and young man but I don’t remember any Jewish orphanages, he lived with his mom until she died.

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Hitler did NOT grow up in a Jewish orphanage, or any orphanage at all. He was not unusually unloved as a child.

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Are you sure he isn’t talking about Lord Voldemort? Lord Voldemort didn’t grow up in a Jewish Orphanage, though. It was just a Muggle Orphanage. :smiley:

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It could have been a Jewish muggle orphanage!

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It probably was. He told me that Hitler grew up in a jewish orphanage and he was talking psychotically enough that I didn’t debate the issue.

Even if hitler had a not so great upbringing, who does? My father died when I was a kid yet you don’t see my planning a mass genocide of millions of people because they have a father and I don’t.

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Perhaps the poster was just trying to get a rise out of everyone. I know a lot of people who say similar stuff–“I like to drink blood,” or “I worship the Devil”–just to get attention. Some people think that saying Hitler is cool is their way of proving that they’re “not part” of society.

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I drink blood
I worship the devil
Hitler is cool
Be my friend

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Well, I’m divided about Hitler.

I have empathy for all humans. I feel sad that we live in a world in which a human being like Hitler can turn into a murderous madman. In some way, I feel sad that Hitler’s life was such a waste.
But , I would have opposed him however I could. I think he was full of evil, he was a criminal, and that we did absolutely the right thing by going to war against him. I also blame Germans of that era for being so blind and so stupid to have given him power. Then again, I feel sorry for them. They made a mistake, and have paid a terrible price.

We have no way of knowing why Hitler was the way he was. We do know that his father was not particularly loving, but neither was he a tyrant. His mother was a loving person. He grew up with his parents. I have no idea where that Jewish orphanage stuff comes from.

Nobody has yet proved that a bad home life leads to evil. Some people seem to survive, others don’t. I see growing evidence that extreme psychological, physical, and or sexual abuse as a young child leads to criminally abnormal behavior patterns. We don’t have any firm evidence that Hitler experienced any of this.

Here’s my theory: Hitler was a disaffected, dreamy, marginal wanderer who “found himself” in the German Army. When his sense of self was taken away by Germany’s loss in WW I (a loss they deserved), he then discovered that he had a gift of public speaking and leadership. Nobody in Germany stood up to him; many fooled themselves into believing he was the Second Coming.

He wasn’t the only one like that. Goering came from a high-born military family and himself was a war hero. Himmler came from an educated southern German family with no traces of anti-Semitism. The list goes on and on.

They were all evil. They had a crazy view of the world, and sought to impose it on others. We would like to think that in a perfect world, men (and women) like that could never gain power. But the world ain’t perfect.

I have empathy, yes. But I also know that even at a young age, humans know right from wrong. If they persist in wrong, still, they have control.