Can you link to any scientific studies that show any truth to “detox” claims? Because there is a long history of woo related to the idea that our bodies need to remove bad elements. What the science says is that our body does a fine job of removing the things that are dangerous to us, most things aren’t toxins, and the supposed detox claims do absolutely nothing.
It’s great that you’re losing weight, and I’m sure your dad is a fine doctor, but detox used in the context of weight loss is false at best, and completely meaningless at worst. It doesn’t work, and some of those techniques can be very dangerous.
However, before and after photos are not data. What data, exactly, have you and your father studied? The whole “detox” theory has been, I believe, thoroughly disproven. It’s quackery, pure and simple. There is no hard evidence that “detoxification” works.
See here. And here. Or here.
yep - so, a practitioner of woo that sells woo and woo related items.
I’m sure you have lots of ‘studies’ that back up your woo - but none of them are accredited - probably provided by the makers of the woo itself. (hint, its called marketing!)
Have a pleasant day.
(*if that is indeed your picture - it is an impressive wieght loss and congratulations - taking nothing away from your success there - however, the ‘woo’ didn’t have anything to do with it beyond a placebo affect for you)
That ***so ***isn’t going to work if you live in the suburbs or a rural area.
That’s not the same as being an MD.
Also, since he sells “nutrition and supplements”, he has a financial interest in this quackery continuing to be sold. I imagine the “studies” you refer to are of limited scientific value.
Just as a word of warning, folks here (myself included) aren’t very impressed with most chiropractors. They have a history of pushing chiropractics as a solution to all of life’s problems with a habit of ignoring scientific evidence that contradicts their beliefs. It can be a waste of money at worst, and dangerous at best. What we typically see is poorly documented anecdotes being pushed as scientific data, and that won’t fly here.
The bottom line is that right now the scientific and medical evidence shows there’s no need to detox, and that most practices sold as “detox” do absolutely nothing. So the bar is set pretty high if you want to show us something new. But I think our minds remain open the possibility - if you have actual data to back up claims.
You assumed incorrectly. Did you read the thread in detail? The OP’s friend is walking for 3 hours daily, which isn’t doing much for her in terms of cardiac fitness anymore and isn’t burning many calories, and apparently that is the only exercise she’s getting.
By the way, in case you think everybody is giving you a hard time about this detox business - remember that we all WANT it to be true. It would be fantastic if we could just take a pill or some drops and feel better. Maybe some of this will be proven true, but for now, it’s not.
My dad is a very brilliant man and has a pjs and the government considers him a doctor. I think it’s very rude of some other posters to laugh at me and then insult my father.
Generalizing a whole group of people based on some bad ones is ignorant IMO. My father works very close with the entire medical field and has helped hundred of people get out of pain and some other ailments.
We actually had a very busy day and I was not able to post the studies there at work but I did bring some info home and my laptop so later this evening I will lay it all out for you guys.
There are many journals that chiropractic data is published in that gives the appearance of being peer reviwed but is not. It’s not a matter of being stupid or not. It’s not a matter of distinguishing marketing materials from journals. It’s being able to distinguish sham journals from real. Like in the Sandy Hook thread, challenging your parents as cites doesn’t mean we’re calling them ignorant or frauds.
If the data you have is from legit peer reviewed journals that’s great. If it’s not, that’s a problem.
Again, like in the Sandy Hook thread you’re taking healthy skepticism much too personally.
No, just letting you know what the Doper-accepted standard is for “actual data”. What we mean by that and what most people mean by that on other fora may be two different animals. I’m delighted we may be all on the same page.
Most people don’t, so don’t take it personally. Also, nobody here knows your father. We are criticizing the chiropractic “profession”, and other pseudoscience you’ve introduced into the discussion, like detox. You can be incorrect or mistaken without being a bad or stupid person.
Chiropractors, at best, are bone masseuses, who temporarily alleviate pain and discomfort through therapeutic touch. At worst, they are fraudulent charlatans. Nobody has accused your father of being the latter, to my knowledge. I’m sure he’s one of the good ones, and would never overstep his bounds by diagnosing or treating real diseases.
Are you in the United States? Here in the U.S., when people say “a doctor” without qualification, they mean an M.D., or possibly a D.O. There are other medical professionals such as dentists, optometrists, and podiatrists that we call “Dr. Lastname,” but when describing their professions, we would say “she’s an optometrist” or perhaps “a Doctor of Optometry.” We would not just say “oh, she’s a doctor.”
Perhaps things are different wherever you hail from, but describing your chiropractor father simply as “a doctor” is incorrect and misleading in terms of the way most people reading this board would understand the term.
Again, please remember that we all would love to know about any pill or drop that has been legitimately and scientifically proven to help us get in shape and lose fat.
It will take a lot to prove it, however, because if such a thing actually existed, we wouldn’t be hearing about it on a message board. It would be on the front page of the New York Times.
That’s fartlek. Basically, just run fast when you want to, then slow, then maybe walk, then whatever - it’s a great way to exercise at your own pace (either fast or slow) and there’s a million variations.
