Advice Wanted: Speeding Up Slow Weight Loss

No. I had my gallbladder out this week I’m in pain.

Well you do know the importance of the gall bladder in storing and releasing toxins. :slight_smile:

Sorry to be teasing you and hope you feel better soon! Surgery is never fun. On the plus side your weight loss made the surgery much less risky and the recovery likely much less difficult than it would have otherwise been.

Recover well.

Can you burn calories just by sitting in cool water? Won’t the body have to work just to keep you at temperature?

Consider that she might be turning that fat into muscle.

Actually swimming in cold water, while great for cardiovascular fitness, is sometimes counterproductive for fat loss. It turns out that swimming in cold water or even exercising in the cold stimulates appetite much more than the calories burned, so the net is often a gain in weight.

And I know you don’t literally mean turning fat into muscle but mean changing her body composition by building muscle mass … but the odds are not with just walking. Even with weight training it is hard to build muscle mass while losing weight. OTOH without the weight training most will lose some muscle mass as part of the weight lost.

I notice no one’s mentioned Weight Watchers. It works, there are two programs to pick (one count points, the other doesn’t). There’s support, and you can go to multiple meetings a week and only pay once.
You have to follow the program. The trifecta of success is track, portion control, and exercise. The program works. Tracking works. Really, really works.

Speaking of exercise, when I was out with a broken ankle, I did chair exercising. The Chair Dancing videos are hokey, but aerobically challenging if you are starting from sedentary or have physical restrictions.

Hope I’m not violating the rules by mentioning commercial programs.

Of course not. People aren’t allowed to shill products, but saying “hey, product/program worked for me” is cool. We all want to hear about non-woo things that actually worked for people.

Weight Watchers is a great program which works very well for many people. Chair dancing looks like a very good option for folks who have physical limitations, but you weren’t kidding about the videos being hokey! :stuck_out_tongue:

I used to turn the audio off and play some marching music while I watched. I found that feeling sympathetic to the people with limitations in the video made my little broken ankle seem trivial and kept me going.

She’s done nothing but post nonsense, woo, and attention demands since she got here. Why should she get a pass on being expected to live up to the expectations of the board that she not disseminate ignorance?

Weight loss is an area in which people need good advice (which a lot of people have provided), not recommendations for unproven and/or dangerous interventions.

I was interested in what she had to say as well because I try to stay open to new/woo ideas because probably some (or even many) have merit - but she hasn’t come back with her promised cites. She has started and posted in several other threads where many people gently suggested she lurk for a while and “get” board culture, and she was also politely clued in that this board has a fairly rabid non-woo and “cite please!” culture. She wasn’t “shut down.” Check her posting historty.

But she has thus far ignored all of that feedback, and refused to answer relevant questions, and has persisted in disseminating unsubstantiated statements, so here we are.

I’d like to like her; she has posted some appropriately biting responses and hinted at some interesting points of view, but her POV seems completely one-sided and self-absorbed, so communication is limited.

It didn’t help that her first post was in a Sandy Hook conspiracy theory thread and she posted something inflammatory and then got mad when challenged because her mom told it to her and how dare we doubt her mom.

And in this thread it was her dad who gave her the meds to lose weight. Her dad being a chiropractor who also sells said supplements, but he is a doctor. Of something.

I would like to give her a pass because in her some of her posts she was under adverse reactions to a combination of meds but she has not come back with cites to her claims.

Of course this is also assuming that she is being honest in her posting and not posting only to get reactions from others.

Being honest in my posting? Why would I give fake advice if it didn’t work for me? That would be very cruel

But to be fair, you didn’t give any advice about how you lost all that weight. Losing over 100 lbs as you did is quite an achievement! So, how did you change your diet, exercise, etc? The OP is looking for advice on speeding up weight loss.

And getting your hormones and toxin levels in check are a way to speed it up WITH your diet and exercise change. You will continue to have trouble without those things being corrected.

I gave a whole
List right here.

There are kernels of good advice in there, though most of that is irrelevant to the OP’s friend. The rest is either woo, dangerous woo, or plain old calorie cutting wrapped up in woo.

The answer to your question, chiroptera, is that her weight loss “secret” is cutting calories and exercising.

That’s some very interesting advice. I see recommendations to “get your hormone levels checked” pretty frequently around the internet. I think it’s a bit irresponsible to recommend that people take hormones without having had an actual MD doctor draw blood and look at the actual blood chemistry to see what’s lacking/in excess to the point of requiring treatment.

What I’m getting at: I actually asked my Primary – we were drawing blood for other tests as well – to “check my hormone levels” because I am nearing menopause age. Every MD-doctor I have ever asked about this has told me that there is no blood test that checks hormone levels and even if there was, the results wouldn’t tell you anything substantial because hormone levels fluctuate on a daily basis. What your results are today will not be the same as what your results would be tomorrow. So I am very interested in people’s stories like, “My doc checked my hormone levels and prescribed XYZ medicine.” I have to wonder: How come my doctors refuse to do this testing and how do people get these awesome hormone tests that my doctors claim do not exist?

So, absent an accurate way to gauge hormone levels via blood testing, I wonder how on earth the average non-medical person would have sufficient information to diagnose one’s own hormone levels and then to treat conditions using OTC hormonal supplements which may or may not cause severe adverse reactions.

Same thing with toxin levels. Your liver’s job (and your kidneys) is to filter toxins out of your body. Unless a person is in liver or kidney failure (Doper docs, please correct me if I’m wrong), your body is already doing its job to filter toxins out. I always wonder to which toxins the supplement industry is referring. Why does that industry think my kidneys and liver aren’t working? What blood test could I ask for at my doctor’s office to determine which toxins need to be eliminated?

I used to grow herbs for medicinal value. I made some teas and such, mostly they were just tasty – I didn’t consider them medicine. Some plants can be used to make medicines, but despite my extensive research, I couldn’t find anything to guide the home herbalist with respect to dosage. Having studied psychopharmacology in college, I understand how important dosage is. How much of a plant do I need to make how much of a dose for what size person? Whether a medicine works is largely driven by dose and because most home herbalists are also not chemists, there’s no way to know if I used too much Feverfew in that headache remedy I just cooked up. So I abandoned my efforts because I was afraid I’d poison someone.

And that’s why I don’t believe in supplements of any kind. I do not have the lab tools and knowledge to A) determine if there really is a problem, B) diagnose it properly, and C) treat it with the proper dosages of the proper medicine/supplement/whathaveyou.

I take Vitamin D. Know why? Because my MD-doc did a blood draw, pointed out that my D3 levels are very low and suggested I take an OTC D3 supplement – and she was very specific about the dosage I require. Subsequent blood draws have demonstrated that this has been effective and my D levels are in the normal range once again. I don’t take anything without substantiated evidence (like lab results) that I actually need it.

ETA: I used to date a guy who was a rabid subscriber to the pH imbalance woo nonsense. I did some research on that too, and it’s really irresponsible to suggest that people can change the pH balance of their blood. There’s a thing called stasis and if we artificially change it too much in either direction (I think it’s like 0.02 pH points or something – not much of a margin for error), you will DIE. When people think they are eating/drinking to change the pH balance and they’re using little testing strips, what they are testing is the pH balance of their urine, which is full of toxins if the kidneys are working. One cannot change the pH of blood by eating and drinking.

What toxins- again, you’re offering up advice but what specifically do you mean by toxins? What toxins are there that your liver and kidneys aren’t dealing with AND contribute to weight loss?

There is no such thing as “toxin levels” in the general sense. This advise is meaningless. If you believe there is such a thing, please point us to the details of such a test.