I’ll be happy to answer that question once explain to me what you think is a white person.
Do you think Spaniards, Arabs, Italians, Greeks, Lebanese, Persians, Turks, and Saudis are white?
If not, why not.
Also, do you think that “blacks”(whatever that means) are less intelligent than “whites”(whatever that means)?
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I’m sorry, but I don’t believe in engaging in debates with racists, at least not tonight.
You’ll have to find someone else.
And for the record, I’m not using the term “racist” as an insult, just a description. Being a “racist” doesn’t necessarily mean you’re an asshole or stupid, though most are both. I’ll presume you’re neither.
We have three pages of discussions about race and intelligence and you wait until post 134 to question one of the underlying premises of the whole thread? What were you waiting for?
I don’t understand. Are you calling Chen019 a racist for pointing out that race exists or are you calling Leon Rosenberg and the committee that awards the Curt Stern award racist for pointing out that race exists?
Wikipedia is a shitty source and I’d recommend finding another source if you want to get taken seriously.
And yes “race”, at least as imagined, is a myth.
This is no longer the 20th Century and Eugenics has long since been discredited.
“Ethnic groups” and “culture” are not.
No.
Haha, Neil Risch, Esteban Burchard, Elad Ziv and Hua Tang are all racists? I’m sure that will be news to them 
Anyway, if you want to debate that subject it was done on the board last year.
No, I don’t?
Namecalling aside, Chen019 has a long history of conveniently blurring the distinction between genotypes and phenotypes, particularly in treating genotypical traits as if there was a direct correlation with social phenotypical and ethnic groupings. Tread carefully.
Yikes this thread got flooded with ignorant racists real fast.
[shrug] So the Supreme Court stops discriminating on the basis of race. Good for their clerkship-applicants, no benefit to anyone else.
I think that a person doing a study can divide people into different groups based on physical aspects ofthose people,and certain of thosegroups Canberra called “races” if one wants to. A person may be white or black or bothor neither depending on how the person doing the grouping wants to do it for purposes of their study.
Now you can answer whether gender is a myth.
We’ve had this discussion before. Wikipedia is a good enough source to start with. The wiki page has cites and all sorts of other thing to back up its content.
We’ve had the “does race exist” discussion before and it always turns out to be a semantic argument. I suspect that you are engaging in teh same sort of argument.
Well that certainly clears things up.:rolleyes:
That doesn’t really answer my question so I’ll rephrase that.
Which of the listed groups are white, which aren’t and why: Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, Armenians, Lebanese, Syrians, Turks, and Persians?
Then I’ll answer your question.
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No it’s not.
Read The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould. That’s vastly superior. http://www.amazon.com/Mismeasure-Man-Revised-Expanded/dp/0393314251/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330635439&sr=8-1
How was my answer not clear?
I answered your question. People in those groups can be white or not white (or different subsets of white) forpurposes of different studies at the whim of the researcher, and it’s perfectly fine as long as they show their work. Speaking of them as white or not white in the complete abstract doesn’t make a lot of sense. As chief pedant likes to point out, it comes down to pumpers versus splitters.
Now you answer.
That’s not an answer, so I’ll refine the question for you.
Which of those groups do you consider to be “white” and which don’t you and why?
Once you’ve answered it, I’ll answer your question.
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Oh geez not this again. Are you gopign to provide us with another reading list as a response to every post you can’t rebutt?
You don’t exlpain anything.
Inn, I answered, you just don’t like my answer. It is not the case that the concept of race only exists if specific people can be landless white or not white for all purposes. There can be any number of races one chooses from 1 (ie, we are all one race) to the number of people that haveever lived (ie everyone is their own race).