P.S. What the hell was John Connor’s father’s name anyway?
I also thought it was odd to see Regan’s name on the list – talk about blaming the victim! Although early in the film there’s speculation that the possession is in Regan’s head, the supernatural explanation wins out in the end.
Although the name “Pazuzu” is thrown around quite a bit, I don’t think the identity of the demon is totally clear. It refers to itself as “the devil”, which one of the priests takes as meaning Satan. I think it also refers to itself as “we” or “us”, implying there’s more than one entity involved.
Kyle Reese. Ok, I can get on with my life now.
Hi FOlks,
If you are like me, reading any Adobe PDF document is a royal pain in the ass isn’t it? So, I converted the PDF to text (another royal pain) and uploaded it to one of the free websites I have set up.
THE LINK IS:
http://www.geocities.com/Internet_web_surfer_dude/Heroesv.html
I didn’t see the program or was even aware of such an installment until this thread, but from a cursory look at the list, if there’s one reason this list isn’t as idiotic as the AFI Best Movies list, it’s because nothing could be worse than that moronic list.
Something to remember from these lists is that they’re not the “Best”, just the “Best-loved” or “Best-remembered”, typically made by people with very little historical knowledge or awareness doing the remembering. So the Wicked Witch and Robin Hood become two of a few token 30s representatives–Whoop De Do! Do you honestly think anyone 50 years from now is going to remember Training Day and Philadelphia as much more than Oscar footnotes? Please.
All these AFI lists indulge in reinforcing the obvious, not broadening the awareness of those who may not remember Buster Keaton or Lon Chaney or Douglas Fairbanks (all notably absent). In the film archival community, they are seen as largely a joke, since they do very little, but are attention whores when it comes to taking credit for things and/or immersing in periodic displays of blatant self-promotion.
Yet another list that’s gutless when it should be fearless, narrow-minded when it should be expansive, and tediously predictable when it should be provocative. But then, that’d make for poor ratings, wouldn’t it? :rolleyes:
This was the name given in the (much inferior) sequel to the Exorcist. But, in the original, I recall the local priest offering to give the out-of-town expert (Max von Sydow) the “names of the manifested demons” and Max replying “There is only one”, meaning, presumably, THE devil.
Pazuzu was also the name of Professor Farnsworth’s pet demon that he raised from a little tyke who rescued the Planet Express crew from the Fountain of Oldth.
Thanks for doing the grunt work wolf_meister.
Glad to see Robert Mitchum’s Reverend made the cut (although I would have ranked him higher).
Some of the missing…
Villains
Jonathan Brewster - Arsenic and Old Lace
Tommy DeVito - Goodfellas
The Thing - The Thing
George and Martha - Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Heroes
John J. Macreedy - Bad Day At Black Rock
Jonathan E. - Rollerball (1970’s version, of course)
Lucas Jackson - Cool Hand Luke
Lt. (j.g.) Doug A. Roberts - Mr Roberts
Actually, Luke Jackson was number 30.
Joan Crawford was the only real-life villain. Real-life heros were Ghandi, Patton, T.E. Lawrence, Oskar Schindler, Alvin York and Lou Gehrig.
(I’m drawing a blank momentarily…Schindler’s List was based on fact, right?)
Forgot Capt. Blight – real-life villain.
[deep sigh]
Only if you believe her daughter’s total bullshit, which has been exposed in several threads in the past.
But she was still a real life person…
And mind you, most historians don’t think the real Capt. Bligh was a villain at all.
Yes, Oskar Schindler was a real person. I don’t know what departures the film did and didn’t make - if I picked one filmmaker to be a historian, it wouldn’t be Spielberg - but in essence at least, it’s a true story.
Eve, any idea why Angela Lansbury seemed to confirm the “no wire hangers”?
BrotherCadfael, Pazuzu may not have been mentioned by name, but he was definitely depicted in the first film, in statuary form in the prologue and as a spiritual manifestation later. (Pazuzu is an actual mythological figure.)
jsc1953, here’s something on the real Capt. Bligh.
I was a bit disappointed that none of the classic cowboy heroes such as Tom Mix, Gene Autry or Roy Rogers made the list. Yeah, today they seem hokey and simplistic but these guys were heroes to millions of kids.
And yes, I STILL watch 'em…
Nope; Amon Goeth from Schindler’s List, Bonnie and Clyde, and…that’s it, I believe.
As for heroes, wasn’t Spartacus real, along with Karen Silkwood, Moses, Erin Brokovitch, Woodward and Bernstein, and Butch and Sundance?
I’m really curious about some of them (like Karen Silkwood).
–greenphan
Spartacus was real, although I’m not sure Hollywood came close to the actual story.