Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S01E19: The Only Light in the Darkness (open spoilers)

My initial reaction to Ward was that he has to be deep undercover infiltrating HYDRA but it seem pretty clear to me now that there’s no way that can be the case. So he’s HYDRA but it seems more of a loyalty to Garret than to anything else. I’m going to guess that Garret may not make it out of the season alive (though he would make a great reoccurring villain and even appear in Marvel movies). Ward has feelings for Skye but there doesn’t seem to be a way that he can redeem himself, he killed Koenig, Hand, and others.

It would be interesting if they make Ward a 3rd party, kind of a tweener and loyal to neither HYDRA nor SHIELD. Kind of a spoiler, in it for himself kind of guy who may help or may hinder the team depending on the situation or his own goals/needs. They established that he has safehouses and drops all over. Ward as a wildcard intrigues me.

She underestimated the distancethen, unless she happened to be, say, in Toronto at the time for some reason.

Incidentally, the coordinates from Coulson’s badge are right on a road, rather than requiring a walk through the woods.

Not according to google maps. Looks like the middle of nowhere to me.

ETA: I’m using Lat 49 27’ 41", long -80 3’ 40", from this clip.

I have to assume this was an oversight in the scene where they showed the tracking screen. Those lanyards are a big deal security device. There’s no way May would have been allowed to resign and walk away with hers.

We don’t know how far May traveled before meeting up with her mother.

Hey, just because she’s retired doesn’t mean she’s forgotten how to throw off surveillance. It’s like riding a bicycle.

There were only two people in the base who knew about the chips in the lanyards. One was Skye, the other was in the process of becoming dead.

Plus, May didn’t ask permission to leave - and she left from the bus.

May was getting ready to leave before Ward made his move, it would have been trivially easy to turn in her lanyard and Koenig turning it off.

And it doesn’t appear that there was any official resignation. As May would say - what’s left to resign from? However, I’d bet she’s much to good a follower to take her lanyard with her.

StG

The on-screen title at the opening of the scene said “Ontario”. A good deal of which is within 500 miles of Pennsylvania.

No, in fact I think every season of Angel is better than the one before it.

I have no idea why I started using “Mae” as the spelling - I just checked the ABC website and it’s “May”. Carry on.

I’ve slipped up and referred to Skye as Sky on a few occasions.

Sorry to be getting to this thread so late, I love this idea, but I don’t think it will work out. It’s unlikely that Garrett is the younger brother, since he’s clearly older than Ward.

And there are obstacles to Garrett being the older brother. We saw Ward’s (presumed) memory flashbacks when he grabbed the magic spear of power, with the small boy in the well and the older boy refusing to let the middle boy (presumably Ward) pull him out. That jives with what Ward told Skye, that his older brother forced him to torture his younger brother (although we would be distrustful of anything Ward said, if we didn’t have the flashback-memory to corroberate. So, if Garrett is the older brother, then they’re going to have to do a lot of Obi-Wanning (“when I said Vader killed your father, that was true in a way”) to get around the seemingly contradictory memory-flash.

And we do have Ward’s comment to Flower-Dress-Lady that Garrett “got him out of a hellhole.” Again, we needn’t trust what he says, but that would be inconsistent with Garrett being the older brother (who seems to have been a cause of the hellhole rather than an exit from it.)

PS, speaking as Moderator rather than poster, we’ve not required spoiler-tags around speculation. Unless the speculation has some reality-basis (e.g., you were invited to a special screening), speculation is just speculation and not “spoiler.”

It may be a parallel to Ward’s current situation. Ward says his older brother used to make him beat up his younger brother. And now Garrett is making him be a HYDRA agent. Two situations where Ward knows what he’s doing is wrong and doesn’t want to do it but feels compelled to turn off his morality and do what he’s told.

I know, but given the freak-outs that have been happening in other threads, I figured better safe than sorry.

Hmm. I entered the same numbers, but Google mis-parsed the format I used. They’re usually pretty flexible about that. I guess that’ll teach me to not convert to decimal degrees myself.

Oh, well. Don’t mind me. Carry on.

There’s never any harm in using spoiler tags, it’s nice to be overly cautious and sensitive to those who etc etc, but I was just saying it’s not “required” in speculative situations.

I guess the question is whether Ward thinks that what he’s doing is wrong. “Just following orders” is a way of ignoring moral choices, by passing the buck: Garrett made the moral decision, not me, I don’t even need to think about it. I don’t see any clue that Ward shows any remorse or even second thoughts.

The whole lie detector thing made no sense. He insisted that everyone take it before they would be allowed to LEAVE the base. It would have made more sense to make everyone take it before they could ENTER the base.