Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E10: What They Become (open spoilers)

Well, MCU owns the Celestials, and they’re the ones responsible for mucking around with the human genome millions of years ago and giving humans the genetic potential to develop superpowers. We’ve got Eternals and Deviants and we’ve already met Thanos, a Titan, which is an offshoot of Eternals. We’ve also got the Kree messing around. Mutants are just one more human subgroup. Just because they don’t tell us any stories about mutants doesn’t mean they don’t exist at all, completely erased from the MCU.

Marvel is minimizing their importance and exposure in the comic book universe, partly due to Fox owning the rights but also due to, I think, just an embarrassing overabundance of mutants.

(bolding mine)

Seriously? I mean, I’ll stipulate that Chloe Bennett is, objectively, an attractive young woman, but I would push her in front of a speeding train, just to shake Ming-Na Wen or Adrianne Palicki’s hand.

Not just mutants though, they also canceled Fantastic 4 and are rumored to kill Deadpool pretty soon. They’ve killed, damaged, or diminished most of the big X-Men though. Who is left that’s as strong as they were in the 90’s, Storm?

Yeah, I would not kick Chloe out of bed for eating peanuts either, but Adrianne is more of a thigh high boots and riding crop kind of attractive, rather than the all american looks of chloe. Its a different kind of attractiveness.

Declan

I’m amused that the half-Chinese woman is characterized as the “All-American” while the Friday Night Lights alumnus is not…

Funny.

Here is another breakdown of the ep and connections to the comic MCU:
http://observationdeck.io9.com/best-day-ever-secrets-of-shield-episode-what-they-be-1669185463

…and some updates on how the showrunners are looking at the second half of the seasons, including (dun, dun DUN!) use of the word Inhumans:

(I clearly have found io9 to be a decent roundup of this type of geek info…)

Awesome. Gotta say Marvel is great at taking risks. Skye and Ward were the most hated characters when the show premiered. Yet they have evolved into the most interesting. Good on Marvel for playing the long game and following through, not deviating from the plan even though there was a lot of criticism.

Glad Mack is ok, but please don’t there be some love triangle between him, Hunter, Bobbi etc.

This show really needs to fire their lighting designer. I can’t see anything.

Also I have no idea WTF is going on anymore.

How so? It seems perfectly clear to me. What part can’t you follow?

Ain’t it grand? When I was young Chloe Bennett would have only played “exotic ethnic” types, Asian or American Indian, mostly. My suburban public high school had a thousand girls like Adrianne Palicki, with only one Black girl, two Chinese girls, and no Mexican girls I can remember. In the 40-some years since then the Chicago area (where Chloe Wang grew up) has grown much more diverse, enough that she can be described as “all-American” without irony. I love it!

Palicki is “normal hot” to me, and though I’m against cosmetic surgery I have gotten rid of a facial wart, and she might want to freeze off or dissolve that “beauty mark” between her eyebrows. Compound W works great, but it’s slow. I’ve been itching to try those freezing things, but I haven’t grown another one on my face.

Um, I never would have pegged Chloe for having a mixed heritage. I guess I shall have to watch again.

Declan

I do too.

I was more going for the sports joke, though…

From Wikipedia:

Sound like an all-American family to me.

I finally figured out how Hunter can actually be a very good character!
It was the “Don’t die out there” bit that made me realize it. He could serve very well as the “Good guy but not a True Believer” character. They’ve already sorta been working this angle with him. It’s good for the audience to have someone they trust is on the side of good but who will still be cautious and cynical and call out situations when they other characters may seem to be going too extreme. This was one of the weaknesses of the Star Wars prequels- there was no stand-in for Han Solo from the original trilogy, no one to say “your noble cause is gonna get me killed, this is where I exit to save my own skin”.

Skye filled this role in Season One, but she’s not that person anymore. If they really work Hunter into this role, it could be good for the character.

How are you watching it? I used to mostly watch this show on my computer and, yeah, it really was too dark. Some scenes were really hard to make out. Anytime I watched on a real T.V. it looked fine (the newer kind of T.V., but not super high end and not very big). Just recently, I got a Chromecast so I can swipe the Hulu player up onto my T.V. and it looks great!

Has anyone checked out the Season One DVD/Bluray set?
I liked Season One but not really enough to buy it (especially since it’s on Netflix streaming now), and from what I remember from last year’s Threads none of us really loved the show other than a few superior episodes. So, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that no one here has bought it.

I’m mostly asking because I am interested in the commentary tracks.
Has anyone listened to the Season One commentary tracks? Are they any good?

It’s just Joss Whedon banging pots and singing “I am so great…!”

I’ll definitely buy season two on DVD.

Well, it’s been like six months and we still haven’t seen any explanation of what this magic artifact actually does, or what it has to do with the blue guys, or why Skye is now encased in carbonite, or what the hell Whitehall was up to (and now he’s dead, but maybe not because people in comic books are never actually dead.)

Anyway, it just seems like this story is meandering forever and not really getting anywhere. The show has become entirely serialized and given up on the weird-guy-of-the-week shows that made the first season entertaining, and has made it clear that it is now a soap opera in which nothing will ever get resolved. So while my hopes are still high, it seems that AoS has basically become The X-Files season 7, except that every other scene now requires arcane knowledge from five decades of comic books which I really have no interest in reading.

And I have to constantly rewind shit to see who gets killed in each fight because nobody will TURN A FUCKING LIGHT ON.

I’m watching it on my big plasma TV, TiVoed from cable.

All that was explained very clearly. The Diviner was designed by the Kree to filter out people who have the Kree-tinkered-with genetics and can survive the transformation process you saw in the temple. When one of the Chosen touches it, it gives them a map to where they need to go to transform into a Gifted individual. Whitehall only knew that it was dangerous alien technology and hoped to use it to create a weapon that killed people on a massive scale. He was wrong about its purpose and now he’s apparently dead.

On the contrary, it’s developed a fascinating story arc and is progressing nicely.