I know a lot of people who are very opposed to these scanners and I carry a print-out from the TSA’s website with me at all times, because I know the day is coming where they will try to force me to be scanned. Everyone has the right to opt-out and they should. These scanners are another government lie that we are keeping America “safe” from terrorists, when instead, what we are really doing is punishing Americans for flying. And fyi, even “low-level” radiation is still radiation. If I am already being exposed to radiation when I fly or make a phone call, then why would I willingly submit to more with a scanner that really doesn’t even help prevent terrorism.
For more information about standing up for your rights in this matter, here is a web site I found recently: http://dontscan.us/
Stand up for your rights, America! If you don’t, nobody else will!
to Cecil Adams for discussing this body scanner issue. Cecil, the definition of microREM is so scientific, I will need to take a class on what it means.
Mr.Kerchak: thank you again for posting article. Indeed, let the revolution begin. Ron Paul for president, Alex Jones for bravest journalist of the 21st century.
The journalist and website responsible for the hero pilot refusing to act like a sheeple. We aren’t sheep, but people. We have rights. We aren’t slaves working for the government. 9/11 was an inside job.
By the way, Transportation Security Administration, TSA, has changed the frisking procedure from pack of hand to open palm. They squeeze breasts and apply pressure on genitalia per Alex Jones.
This, just in time for the “less invasive” body scanners. They are working in tandem, if you don’t want to get seen naked, you get molested by some TSA hiree. I believe these due show naked image of body not some blur outline of a human figure. Per Alex Jones, they use the genitalia to focus advance-imaging technology, AIT, scanner, because of the multiple folds of skin, the same way a photographer uses the creases around the eyes or pupil to focus a camera. Elect Ron Paul 2012 to end this tyranny.
To administrator:
I was just going to edit this in my post, but it takes me longer than the allotted 5 minutes we get in editing posts to write that paragraph. Just so you have a user’s opinion, I’m not a fan of that stipulation. What is it’s purpose?
microREM (or the more modern micro sievert) is the basic unit for measuring radiation dose. Understanding is does not take a class, it just takes the effort to read a few web pages. Understanding the basics of radioactivity and the hazard it presents to humans is pretty fundamental if you are going to decide something is a dangerous government plot.
Do you know, despite all the 9/11 threads on the Dope, I think this is the first time I’ve seen “sheeple” used in anger.
I just realized we’re in the comments forum. You should probably revive the great debates thread (or start a new one) if you want to get down into the weeds on this again.
Well, ya know, I was just posting for the awesome humor of the situation.
Personally, I find it amusing how many people get their panties in a wad whenever a new control is proposed to thwart how outlaws are thwarting the old control. ‘What, you want to put my picture on my drivers license? POLICE STATE, RUN FOR YOUR FREEDOMS.’
I learned about that web site and its cousin, http://nude-o-scope.com, from the FlyerTalk forums. They cover a lot of air travel related matters. (But they lack the decorum and responses to questions that I’ve gotten used to here on the Dope.)
So, any control is reasonable? You wouldn’t find flying naked and handcuffed to your seat?
Or, alternatively, perhaps we can agree that there exists a line, a point at which increased security becomes too intrusive, too onerous for the value added. You and I may disagree on where that line is, of course, but perhaps you might not find it so amusing when it’s your line being crossed.
Powers &8^]
More than once, some investigation has shown that xray machines – the old fashioned kinds – are not always checked to emit the minimum radiation. Why subject ourselves to another kind of risk? Who is monitoring these machines? When? Once a year? Great! then only 50 thousand people will be overexposed before the next check of the machine. No thank you.
Well, your first statement is a pure bullshit false dichotomy not implied by anything in my post, and the second statement is a perfectly reasonable, mostly, call to examine the cost/benefit ratio, something which has been absent from this thread filled with talk of Gitmo level pat downs by the government that did 9/11 and will turn us all into sheeple if we don’t wake up and stand up for our rights.
Um, you dropped a hyperbolic example to show the silliness of the position that security measures are too much. So Powers dropped a hyperbolic example of where the measures are taking us. And you think his hyperbole wasn’t spawned by yours?
It’s sad we can’t have a reasonable discussion over the level of security, cost/benefits, etc, without someone interjecting conspiracy nonsense and basically making one side indefensible simply by association of the idiocy spouted by the proponent.
As another shocker (or maybe not) there is a letter of concern written by actual scientists that say the measurements of radiation exposure may be off by quite a large amount, perhaps one to two orders of magnitude. The link is found here. (Warning, PDF file.)
You said “whenever a new control is proposed to thwart how outlaws are thwarting the old control”, you find reactive panty-wadding amusing. The clear implication is that as long as the control is proposed in reaction to circumvention of existing controls, that anyone who objects is being unreasonable.
The logical conclusion, then, is that any control so proposed would be reasonable, no matter how onerous.
Obviously, that’s not true. Some controls are plainly unreasonable and thus should be opposed. So why do you find it so amusing when people complain about a particular control they find unreasonable?
Powers &8^]