Al Qaeda just got me thrown out of college.

Backstory:

I got my Bachelor’s Degree about four years ago. Took a year off college, eventually realized that a) I missed going to school and b) I had a lot of spare time in the evenings. So, I thought I’d enroll at the local community college, take a few night classes in subjects that I had passed on previously because they weren’t related to my major. Mostly film classes. You know, just for kicks.

I signed up for two classes in the Fall of 2001. I knew that I was going to miss several classes up front, because I was going on a family vacation to Spain with my folks in late August/early September. I think you all can see where I’m going with this. Our flight back was scheduled for September 12th.

Anyway, once the airports were open again and we had rescheduled our flight, I’d missed a good bit more class than I had intended, and just generally wasn’t in an academic mood, what with the national tragedy and all. So I dropped both classes and re-applied in the Spring. This time, I completed my classes, got decent grades, no problems. Last semester, I signed up for two more classes, but had to drop one of them when it started conflicting with my work schedule.

This is where my problems begin. See, the community college I’m going to gives all it’s students something called an NSR rating. This is basically the ratio of classes enrolled v. classes completed. If your NSR is 50% or less, and you have more than a certain number of credits completed, they put you on academic probation. Last semester, I completed enough credits for someone to look at my NSR, which happened to be exactly 50%. I received a form letter telling me I had to meet with an academic counselor or I would be booted from the college. I met with him, explained what happened, forms were filled, papers were signed, and all, I was assured, was in order. I was relieved and optimistic.

At least, I was until yesterday, when I got a letter in the mail informing me that I was no longer a student due to my poor academic performance. Still, I was calm and collected. At least until I got the forty minute telephone run-around and ended up cursing into an answering machine. I was literally so angry by that point I couldn’t form coherent words, and my message sounded more or less like, “You herfer murferucking bastards I hopchuck miffle shit!” So, I’d like to take this opportunity to clarify and expand on those remarks.

You fucking bastards. You stupid, fucking bastards. You stupid, lying, incompetant, motherfucking bastards. What the hell do you think you’re doing? Do you think you’re running a real college? This is a goddamn community college you’re supposed to be running here! You know, high school for people who didn’t get enough of it the first time around? This campus is here for two purposes: it’s a holding tank for nineteen year-old tweakers who are trying to keep themselves from being thrown out of their parent’s house, and a social club for middle aged professionals who need a hobby. Perhaps 5% of the student body is actually taking classes with an eye towards further education, and most of them are over-acheiving high school students taking college credits to beef up their applications to Stanford, or Berkeley, or some other real college. These are the only students here who atually need your “help.” Except they don’t need it because, unlike you, they are generally intelligent and competent. That’s why they’re blowing out the bell-curve in college level courses when they’re fourteen fucking years old. They, blessedly, have almost nothing to do with you pack of crusty cumstains. The rest of us aren’t so lucky. We have to meet with counselors to explain why we felt that being able to pay for food and shelter was more important to us than getting a good grade in Tantric Basketweaving. We’re the ones who have to sign “academic contracts” ( :rolleyes: ) which are only going to get torn up and used for rolling papers as soon as we get home. We’re the vast, apathetic student body without whom there would be no fucking school. Do you understand? We don’t care about grades. We aren’t here as the first step in getting out PhD’s. If I ever decide to pursue an advanced degree, it sure as shit isn’t going to be founded on my performance in your pissant little academy, it’s going to be based on my actual academic career, which took place at a real college. So get the fuck off my back, you tin-dicked supporting characters from a third rate Kafka short-story. I’m sick of jumping through your bureaucratic hoops just so you assholes can justify your fucking salaries. I say, fire the lot of you and make you get jobs as fluffers for low-rate Europorn, where at least you’ll be contributing to the social good, instead of sitting around plotting ways to increase my fucking blood pressure!

Well, I went to community college and I learned a lot- I take exception to the idea that it’s nothing but a joke. What do you care if they throw you out then?

I think you know what I’m going to say here.

The terrorists have already won.

Well, there’s a lesson in pomposity.

Well, considering your specific issue (related to 9/11), I can certainly understand your anger about that part. The forms were signed, everything was supposed to be okay, and you got booted anyway. That would sure piss me off.

But for the rest - I think your attitude about junior college is a little off. It really IS intended to be a stepping point to a 4-year college - that’s why the courses are mostly the basic required courses for a 4-year degree. I attended junior college, partly because it fit better into my full-time work schedule, and partly because there was a huge cost difference - $25 per semester hour versus $100 per semester hour. It allowed me to wait until I got to the 4-year college before I started piling on the student loans. Sorry if that makes me a loser slacker.

Anyway, don’t they have options for people who aren’t in school for the grades? Either adult courses (continuing ed) or the option to audit a class? That way you get to learn, but you don’t have to worry about fulfilling academic requirements that you care nothing about.

I do agree that the attempted/completed ratio is bunk. I often dropped courses due to a hectic work schedule - work, unfortunately, always came first. I was constantly worried about coming out on the wrong side of the ratio.

I gotta say that reading “You herfer murferucking bastards I hopchuck miffle shit!” made me laugh so hard I almost peed. That literally made my day.

Let’s grant your assertion about the mediocrity of Community colleges.

How lame are you to have flunked out?

I’m sure they’re dicks, but dude, you are one self-righteous nimrod.

Well, I’ll grant that the comments I made about community colleges in general might be specific only to the one I’m attending. The campus demographics skew pretty old: I’m 27, and am usually one of the youngest people in the classroom. These aren’t people who are starting out their education, they’re people who already have careers and are just attending for fun and self-improvement. Generally speaking, the people who are closer to me in age usually drop out before midterms, although there are exceptions. Of course, I’ve taken almost exclusively night classes, which skews my sample. But dammit, this is a rant; I didn’t want to be fair and equitable, I wanted to get all frothy with rage.

The reason I care about getting kicked out is that I enjoy going there. I like the classes and the teachers. Teachers, I hasten to point out, who are much more aware of what role this college serves in this community. It’s a working class campus, and they make allowances for the fact that academics take a back seat to work or other concerns for the majority of the students. In fact, my respect for the teachers is enhanced by the way they get screwed by the admin far more frequently and enthusiastically than the students. Example (which I meant to include in the OP but totally spaced on): After years of politicking, the film department finally got a new building, including a fully equipped television studio. But the administration won’t approve any television courses. Further, the TV studio has a light grid in it. This was installed to head of the film department’s specifications, and works fine. But the administration, under their own iniative, also installed a light grid in the lecture hall, without consulting the department head. This grid is immobile. It doesn’t move up and down, which makes it totally fucking useless. It cost something like ten grand. Ten grand could have bought two more Bolex cameras (we only have four or five) or another sound-sync 16mm camera (we only have two). On top of that, whenever the film department tries to get more funds (mostly to fix the cameras, which are exceedingly delicate and constantly breakdown even when used carefully), they’re usually refused on the grounds that they got all that money for the TV studio and the light grid, neither of which the film department ever uses, so why should the school give them more money?

Anyway, looking back on my OP, I was harsher on the school than necessary, but not necessarily hard enough on the administration. So let me add a few more swear words that the casual reader can feel free to apply to the administration at will, or save for later use in the privacy of their homes: shitsticks, ass-suckers, cack-handed masturbators, monkey fuckers, coprophiliacs, mung huffers, jackholes.

furt: I didn’t flunk out. In fact, I’m enjoying the highest GPA of my academic career, which is just shy of a 4.0.

But thanks for playing.

Miller, am I missing something here? If I understand your OP correctly, you’ve completed 50% of your classes. (Took and completed three, dropped three, correct?) Then you were put on academic probation because your NSR rating was 50%. It doesn’t seem right to me, because you had to drop your first two classes because of unavoidable circumstances (as an aside, that looks like grounds for academic appeal right from the get-go), but one could argue that that’s the rules.

What I don’t understand is how you went from probation to expulsion. I used to work at a two-year private college (a little different from a community college) in CA. We put students on academic probation all the time. But it took something more (like more dropped classes, another failing grade, etc.) to go from probation to expulsion. In other words, you couldn’t be put on academic probation and be expelled for the same “offense”–you had to have two different “offenses.”

I’m particularly concerned that you followed the official orders from the college (to meet with an academic advisor and complete paperwork) and still get dropped. That doesn’t make any sense to me.

I know the CA rules on two-year colleges are obtuse (we had to have two experts, out of a full-time staff of only about 40, just to deal with transfers to four-year institutions). If you want, I can try to get back in contact with some of my old colleagues there on this situation. From where I’m sitting, it seems like you got jacked.

Well, I’ve had excellent experiences with Community College and I will always defend them in conversation. It irks me to no end that people think state funded = lowclass education. My Community College is one of the top colleges in the nation and better than alot of universities. It is most definately a real college.

That said, the ‘hurfer murferucking’ line was some funny shit :D.

Duke: I’m guessing that the fact that I met with a counselor somehow didn’t get into their databases. I’ve got (somewhere) the form I filled out and had him sign to prove I’d jumped through the proper hoop, which I’m looking forward to shaking angrily in someone’s face next week. According to what the counselor said, I was supposed to have another semester to bring up my NSR before any more serious measures were taken.

At any rate, even if I hadn’t, it’s not exactly an expulsion, like you’d get for, say, shooting up in the middle of class, or kidnapping a faculty member. It’s basiclly super-double-plus academic probation. All I’ve got to do is jump through some additional hoops and I’m pretty much guaranteed re-admittance. This is another fact I’d meant to include in the OP, but forgot about. (I’m probably not making such a great case for myself as a model student here, am I?) Thanks for the offer of help, though.

The more I think about it, I really was being unfair to the college itself. I’m even being a bit unfair to the administration, at least in relation to my other experiences with college administrators. I was at a State college previously, and the admin there made these guys look… well, they still look pretty stupid, but at least they’re stupid with company.

[Dean Wormer]
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me… As of now you’re on Double SECRET Probation!
[/Dean Wormer]
Better shape up, dude! :stuck_out_tongue:

Miller, higher ups at my otherwise respected university were absolute dicks about 9/11 related absences. The last drop date for classes was Wed. the 12, which they decided to stick to. No exceptions. They would not excuse absenses. I ended up almost having to drop out 6 credits from graduating.

No offense, amigo, but in this particular context I simply must point out that “alot” should properly be two words, and it’s “definitely”…

Hell, for some of the classes, you could just show up and sit in the back, since you don’t care about transcripts anyway.

I gotta ask: who’s paying the tuition, you or financial aid?

If the class is coming out of your own wallet, then why does the school even give a rat’s ass if you show up for class? There are federal regulations now concerning class attendance and FA eligibility which may be the drive behind this, but if it’s your nickel, tell them to readmit you or get bent.

Paying myself. It’s only about $100 a semester. And I don’t get my money back if I withdraw after the first month (?) or so of class. So basically, if I keep dropping classes, they get my money but don’t have to waste resources on me. Not to mention the money they get out of me for textbooks, which are usually non-refundable. No wonder they don’t have any more money to give to the film department.

One thing I’ve learned about college bureaucracy is that the key that opens every door is faculty.

If you have a good relationship with any of the instructors of your three classes, have a chat with one of them and explain your problem. They can probably get your problem straightened out with a three minute phone call.

Good luck.