From CNN headline page…
Doug Jones: I may vote with GOP on some issues
Jones: Trump shouldn’t resign over allegations
The “D” by his name, is it like a D-- now?
Already running for re-election 2 years from now.
Two things. One, (hypocrite though he is), he realizes that the Ten Commandments are the foundation of morality. Two, he wants that knowledge to be spread widely.
He tells you what you want to hear, and you are willing to ignore his actions and hate towards others. How can you say he is hypocritical about the Ten Commandments and also say he is promoting them?
OK, to each his own. To me he’s a racist pig who was never admirable, regardless of the listed rules he needed to form his moral judgement. I would more likely admire someone who was a moral person because he believed in being a good person, and didn’t require being told what was right and wrong.
As evidenced in another thread, in his own hand, Flyer, at the very minimum, embraces Moore’s bigotry towards others.
But, but, Flyer…those clunky gray tablets are a total PIA, what with how unwieldy they are, as congresscritters sometimes leave them on their desk, marring the nice wood finish, or if they’re brandishing them at each other on the floor. Really, the last the thing a session needs are more Townshend-on-Hoffman-at-Woodstock debacles going on.
And ya had to bloody go and put an excessively long-bearded Chuck Heston in my mind, asshole.
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“That’s a good start, sir, just one question: did you go to those you aggrieved and asked forgiveness?”
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Not in the least. His actual policies are abhorrent to me.
(Plus, oh please, the Ten Commandments are not THE foundation of morality and law. Societies that do not have them in their religio/sociological heritage have morality and law too.)
I am not surprised at all the Flyer admired Roy Moore. Flyer thinks women wearing pants are cross-dressers among others things.
This premise alone is contrary to our civil society, as far as the beliefs of public servants go.
Moore, the private individual, can believe that as rock-solid Revealed Truth.
Moore, the public servant, must believe that the Constitution is the foundation of our legal system, and the canons of his profession are the moral foundations by which he must abide.
And I can think of a big-ass piece of rock which says Moore is fundamentally incapable of making that kind of distinction.
(As a mostly-irrelevant sidebar, Moore can’t even do it honestly. He could get closer to being in my good books by taking the honest route, advocating the destruction of our Constitution and the government it creates and its replacement with an honest Theocracy, based explicitly on Andy Schlafly’s Conservative Bible, which is closer to what he believes than the KJV could ever be. But he didn’t do that, and instead ignored our system of laws in order to force his lifestyle on the public.)
What amazed me was his own people didnt let him speak very much, because everytime he opened his mouth something stupid came out. His wife and spokesperson didn’t make any sense either. I cannot believe anyone who heard them could come to any conclusion other than how idiotic they were. How, I ask did anyone vote for him? It’s mystifying.
There’s a concept in rationalist circles called the “sanity waterline”. The concept is basically that there’s a certain level of civilizational sanity, and wrong ideas that are just too wrong can fall beneath it and essentially become written off on a near-permanent basis. Things like geocentrism, the flat earth, etc. are all below the sanity waterline by now.
Roy Moore as a whole should be below the sanity waterline. The man is a young earth creationist fundamentalist Christian. He’s a birther and a conspiracy theorist (the latest conspiracy theory: he only lost because of voter fraud). He has little to no respect for the rule of law when it violates his personal principles, as shown by the fact that he was thrown out of two previous elected positions (well, the same position twice) for flaunting the rule of law.
Even if he had been convicted in a court of law of raping a 5-year-old, that wouldn’t be the thing about this scenario that worries me the most. It is incredibly hard to do as much damage by actively going out and harming people as you can do by being lousy at your job in congress. A child rapist might rape a few dozen people. A shitty congressman can contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands. But here’s the reality: we have someone who holds beliefs that are objectively completely insane who nearly got elected to the United States Senate. And that’s the rule, not the exception! Electing Roy Moore in any situation should count as a strike against both Alabama as a state and Democracy as a concept. But then, so should electing James Inhofe, and Paul Broun, and Tim Walberg. The sanity waterline is dangerously low indeed.
All the Ten Commandments kerfuffle proved is that Moore let his religious beliefs interfere with his job as Alabama Chief Justice. His job was to interpret the law in accordance with the constitutions of Alabama and the US, not to promote a particular religion. If you were a non-Christian walking into his courtroom and saw the Ten Commandments there in stone, would you say to yourself “Gee, I’m going to get a fair shake here”? Probably not. If this behavior is admirable to you, I think you have to ask yourself and/or respect freedom of religion.
Now if Moore had recognized and apologized his pedophilia, I certainly wouldn’t vote for him. You don’t get cured of pedophilia any more than you get cured of alcoholism. All you can do is continually recover from it. Moore does not deserve the public trust in any office, great or small.
This is why I object to the sloppy use of the term “pedophile” to characterize Moore. Like it or not, men are not sick if they feel attracted to teenage girls. We, as a society, frown on men in their 30s acting on that attraction, but it’s not the same as someone who is attracted to pre-pubescent children.
[pedant]Ephebophile[/pedant}
Happy now?
If he wants to uphold the Ten Commandments, he should seek a career as a minister. As a public official, he’s obligated to uphold the Constitution.
Look, it may not be economical in words or have that nice “clinical” ring to it but “the kind of guy who’d feel up a 14-year-old” is a perfectly unambiguous description.
No, they just thought having a* slimeball *as Senator would be better than a Democrat. 
I think that** 14** may be in pedophile territory, John. It’s damn close.
Do not personalize arguments in this fashion. If you feel you must, the BBQ Pit is right around the corner.
If you want to bring up past positions or opinions, make sure they are relevant and not simply harassment. Even if this was relevant, same comment as above - do not personalize arguments in this fashion.
No warnings for the above two comments. This however:
This is a warning for personal insults. If you feel you must, the BBQ Pit is right around the corner.
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