But be careful about Ergot. 
Errors, ergo errots.
Quod air rat demonstrandum.
“There’s nothing in the rule book that says a rat can’t play basketball!”
So you think firing a revolver loaded with blanks at the floor is a demonstration in safety? I think Clooney spoke from his narrow experience. His unfamiliarity with the term ‘cold gun’ makes me wonder about his breadth of knowledge. It’s obvious that what Baldwin did was lacking, but your posts seem intent on placing the burden of blame where it may not belong.
Further, protestations about ‘safety’ from a shill for Nestle is the height of irony.
Did anyone suggest that? The guideline is that if the gun has dummy rounds that look like real bullets wiithout removing them and checking them, the armorer will tell the actor to point the gun at the ground and pull the trigger enough times to cycle all the rounds in the cylinder, to prove that the gun is inert to himself and everyone on set.
That would have prevented this accident.
For those still unclear, here are the definitions:
“Live” round - a real cartridge with a bullet in it. Should never be anywhere near a movie set except in very specific, rare circumstances where the actor has to actually fire a live bullet.
“Dummy” round - A cartridge with no powder and an expended primer, but with a real bullet. Inert, but looks like the real thing. You can tell them from ‘live’ rounds by checking that the primer is dimpled, by looking for a hole drilled in the side, or by shaking it, because an armorer is supposed to put BB’s in it instead of powder so it rattles when shaken.
“Blank” round. A cartridge containing a reduced amount of powder, and instead of having a bullet at the end it is simply crimped. To prevent the powder from leaking out of the crimping it will also likely have a bit of paper wadding between the powder and the crimp.
Blanks can be dangerous at close range. They can also damage hearing if shot indoors. You don’t fire blanks lightly, and certainly not at the floor, since they’d likely damage it. Dummies are just lumps of metal and lead, and completely harmless unless maybe you throw them at someone.
Well Clooney seemed to when he said he always does it. But maybe he’s only ever dealt with dummy rounds.
Probably will only be needed a few more times in this thread.
That still sounds like it could be dangerous. It’s only safe to shoot the floor if the gun is actually safe. If the gun happens to have a real bullet in it, then the actor will shoot a bullet onto the floor where it may ricochet or break apart. To test if the gun had a real bullet, it seems like the gun should be shot into something which would catch a bullet if one happened to be loaded into the gun.
Maybe she figured Baldwin is a wealthy man and a big name actor, and if he was going to lend his prestige to this production (and no doubt be heavily compensated for it—perhaps to the point the producers decided to cut corners on mere “nice to haves” like safety), then he had an obligation to be concerned for the safety of workers, particularly in a nation where there is next to no social safety net, and as a result he—along with everyone else who stood to profit substantially from this film—ought to pay through the nose for ensuing failures, up to and including death?
As to physical trauma, IANAL, but I will simply note that it’s easier to succeed with an IIED claim (particularly when the “intentional” part is perhaps more toward the “reckless” side of things and the plaintiff wasn’t the target, as it were) when the emotional distress is of such as nature as to cause physical harm (like maybe she can’t sleep, she can’t eat, she’s losing weight, her hair is falling out from the stress, etc. etc.).
Anyway, let’s not feel too bad for Baldwin et al (the financial backers) getting slammed with mean-sounding lawsuits. I also continue to be unimpressed by the quality of “reporting” done by the New York Post. I suppose I should be grateful no one seems to be reading the Washington Times.
And just as an oh by the way, formulaic complaints by glory-seeking attorneys aside, I think it’s fair to assume that the plaintiff here has been genuinely traumatized by this event. Unfortunately “I was traumatized by the gross incompetence of a twenty-something hired by a bunch of greedy capitalists who were only interested in the bottom line” is not a recognized cause of action in the US. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress is likely about as close to that as a mere plebe can hope to get.
Yeah, she’s lost a fair amount of credibility in recent years.
From Wikipedia:
There hasn’t been a gun with a real bullet on a film set (that we know of) in 20 years. To reiterate something from way up earlier in the thread:
I don’t feel bad for Baldwin that he’s had lawsuits filed against him. I was appalled at the poisonous voicemail he left his daughter some years back. Definitely not a fan.
But insomnia would be considered a physical manifestation of emotional trauma, not physical trauma. My understanding is that because emotional trauma is harder to prove, plaintiffs’ attorneys look for physical manifestations to add weight to emotional trauma claims. That does not make them physical trauma.
As needscoffee pointed out, Allred’s reputation has slipped considerably. I still think she’s counting on Baldwin settling out of court, which would keep her from having to prove physical trauma that didn’t exist.
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One has nothing whatsoever to do with the other.
Act of Valor, 2012, filmed sequences with live ammunition. They also used real Navy SEALs as actors, so quite unusual all around.
Yes but weren’t those active duty soldiers at military live-fire ranges?
The prop master shoots herself in the foot? That set was such a mess.
It’s interesting that the LA Times has obtained texts from people that were involved.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/it-was-supposed-to-be-their-big-break-now-two-24-year-olds-are-at-the-center-of-the-rust-shooting-investigation/ar-AAQWgGT
Wish I could read that article but it’s paywalled…Thanks for the quoted excerpts.
Here’s the direct link to the LA Times article: