Alex jones

Is this guy for real?

I listen to his show and I agree with him on a few things but he starts ranting and raving about police brutality being connected to the New World Order and then I think he is just another entertainer talking politics.

Anybody know if this guy is really crazy?

Given that this is likely to develop into a political discussion, I am moving this from GQ to GD.

Colibri
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He’s crazy. 9/11 thread already in progress.

He believes in the Illuminati.
For serious.

Hehe, if I were a member of the Illuminati I’d keep a guy like Alex Jones on the payroll to throw out red herrings.

If you’ll excuse me I need to put on my gas mask, I’m right in the flight path of the LaGuardia chemtrails. :wink:

Well, there ARE a lot of Illuminati Wannabes! Just no central Illuminati… I think.

I’m just starting a book by Terry Melanson PERFECTIBILISTS: The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati which is FINALLY a legit & complete English-language history. His conclusion seems to be- they were a real threat to civil order in late-1700’s Europe, they did indeed inspire & in some cases sponsored other revolutionary movements of the time, and there were a lot of revolutionary & globalist groups through the 1800s up to the present that seem to be continuing what the original Illuminati desired.

Alex Jones really freaks out over the Bohemian Grove & its ‘Cremation of Care’ ceremony in front of a giant wooden owl. Turns out that a major symbol of the historical BOI was the Owl of Minerva.

Is Alex Jones crazy? Oh, hell yes. I can’t stand listening to him any time he’s on C2Cam.

If I had to choose between Alex Jones being crazy or that it is all just an act, I couldn’t decide because I don’t listen to him.

Even a broken clock can be right twice a day. Does being a nut invalidate everything you might say?

A broken clock with no hands is never right. And there’s a lot of broken clocks out there.

Indeed. Sometimes you have to listen for a bit to understand who you listening to. However, there are some people that are so way out on the pipe that you don’t want to waste your time. I don’t want to say he is one of them, but it certainly seems that way.

Conspiracy theories aren’t always wrong. In fact, a secret cabal has begun operating in this very thread.

Was the shooting at the Holocaust Museum really done by Von Brunn? Or was it really Mossad? I’m just asking questions. I mean, someone thinks it was. Maybe they’re right.
… no.

The Left’s Glenn Beck.

What’s even more frightening is that there are people who believe every word he says as the truth "They* " don’t want you to know. Bohemian Grove is frequently mentioned. Alex Jones is the only one brave enough to tell the truth.

It’s disconcerting to be in the middle of what one thinks is a rational conversation about anything to do with politics and have it suddenly descend into a rant on how the MSM is suppressing the real truth about the government and who’s really in control. No actual names or organizations, just a bunch of people whose main objective is power and money which must be true because they have it all and it goes back centuries and they all know each other and they don’t get involved with the day to day running of the world except they do and it’s all to keep the cycle going so that we don’t believe they exist and it’s working and…

by that time my jaw has to be manually returned to its normal position.

*“They” are never defined beyond ‘those who want you to think the government is in charge but it’s really Them.’

Alex Jones is not a lefty, and he makes Glenn Beck look like Neal Conan.

What always blows my mind is that these people are so stupid that they think that power and money in and of themselves are ends. They can’t comprehend that when you are that rich, power and money are the means to the ends, not the ends in and of themselves. They think that these people are seeking more of what they already have in abundance. People do not seek more of what they have in abundance.

But of course that simple idea does not penetrate at all to a poor lower-class conspiracy theorist. For them power and money are ends in and of themselves because they do not have them. They cannot even fathom wider longer range goals. Except when they just assume that all sorts of things are connected, like that standing engraved metal pillar in Georgia that says that the population needs to be reduced to 500m people. Somehow they just assume that the Bilderbergers put that there. So their only wider longer range goal is genocide.

He is probably playing to his audience like Beck does. I don’t know if either believe all they say. But the audience wants to hear it.

Would you agree that such initiatives would exist in 20th or 21st century, too? Or, you think in this day and age such initiatives are old wives tales?

Huh? I would propose that it is exactly the opposite. Their motives may be various (from psychological to psychotic and such) but what they seek is always more of what they already have. That drive is what makes Earth spin.

Lisa: Dad, I think he’s an ivory dealer! His boots are ivory, his hat is ivory, and I’m pretty sure that check is ivory.

Homer: Lisa, a guy who’s got lots of ivory is less likely to hurt Stampy than a guy whose ivory supplies are low.

You’re misunderstanding me. I am not saying that they do not seek more money and power just that it’s not necessarily the ends in and of themselves. You have to ask what they want to do with that money and power. When you become successful in a career path, and reach a certain level of wealth where you are comfortable you start looking at work that can give you something you want that is not just about money and power. Something that satisfies something within you. Say you are comfortable at 100,000 a year but you are offered a job you know you'd hate for 150,000 per year. Do you take it? My wife works for a small firm, both Bravo and Microsoft have tried to poach her. She didn’t take either job because she likes where she works. I guess that’s power seeking in one sense.

But a person like David Rockefeller isn’t seeking to just add another billion to his portfolio. He’s not trying to compete to be the richest man in the world. What does he want? What is the Trilateral Commission building? To my understanding it was a coalition between the US, Europe and Japan to setup an industrial/trade regime. Does that gain him personal power? Yes, but it’s also about a larger vision that will last longer on this Earth than he will.

The idea that to people who already have multiple billions of dollars that it’s ‘all about the paper’, like it is for poor schlubs trying to get rich, is silly. Richard Branson is building Virgin Galactic because it’s ‘Fucking Cool’. Yes, he intends to make money off of it, and if it ever took off properly he’d make more money than he already has by orders of magnitude. He’d be the first to market on wide-spread space tourism. But at this point in time, it’s a lot more risk than it is reward. There are far more conservative investments he could’ve made that would have yielded him more money and more power in the near term, but he chose the hail mary. Why? Because it’s fucking cool.