Alien: Earth

I thought carrying a flamethrower as a default part of your equipment definitely points at “bug hunts” being their primary role.

Why? Flamethrowers were relatively common in WWI and WW2. They are excellent anti-personnel weapons. And if there is some awesome futuristic body armor that can stop those rifle rounds the flamethrower is a pretty sure fire workaround.

The distinction is made between a stand-up fight and a bug hunt. I’m guessing the former involves human opponents.

Just caught up. Confession: I have never watched any of the movies set in the Alien cinematic universe. I just know what has spilled out into general fund knowledge. And read here.

I’m enjoying this. Maybe I’ll follow with the movies after, but probably not.

Willy Wonka style boy genius sending Wendy out makes sense to me. This is play for him. Sociopathic behavior lay, but play. She is friend to be and toy all in one. Plot armor for the brother is expected.

So far most puzzled as to why only Wendy can hear the xenomorphs (be it their minds or other communication channel)? Clearly the set up with the scorpion in the glass jar, and having … empathy … for its POV, is relevant to where the story goes. To be fair the xenomorphs are victims here.

I also don’t see that there is any cover up needed? The public knows of a crash but not of the creatures that were on the ship. And this hybrid experiment is just that: an experiment. Curly I think it is? Is desperate to be the favorite and the natural way for the story to go is that she grows powerful but dangerous and Wendy with help stops her while somehow preventing the xenomorphs from being further tortured/exploited. But without allowing them loose on the planet either. Possibly sacrificing herself in the process.

Also puzzled about the lung. They removed it from Hermit? That seems needless; use a cow or pig lung. Much easier. What’s the point of it being human? Just to set up Wendy turning on them for doing that?

Agreed. Given episode 3, it appears that the alien presence on Earth has been fully contained to the island with no surviving witnesses except Wendy’s brother.

My advise is watch Alien and Aliens and ignore everything else. (I have seen only the first four movies, but should have stopped at two.)

He was stabbed through the chest by the xenomorph’s tail (8:30 into episode 3). His chest was getting operated on no matter what. That lung was probably trashed.

I decided to pop on Alien tonight.

I had forgotten that it’s made completely explicit that the Nostromo was intentionally rerouted in order to “find” the transmission from LV-426 per Special Order 937.

Ash was embedded in the crew secretly before their voyage presumably to ensure that the specimen is returned.

Ash when interrogated makes it seem that he and by extension W-Y know what the alien is, but this isn’t clear cut. Special Order 937 sent them to “investigate” and “return it for analysis”. Ash admiring it could simply be a result of his study of it on the ship or it could be based on prior knowledge.

Now trying to line up the timelines.

We see that the Maginot is supposedly crashing on Earth in 2120 - the opening scenes in Ep. 1 are kind of unclear on this, but the internet seems to think this is concrete. Apparently the Nostromo launched from Earth to Thedus on its fateful mission in 2120 as well. Ash was replaced as science officer 2 days before their return from Thedus to Earth.

So I’m going to make a guess that the Nostromo when it launched from Earth to Thedus was doing so for normal non-nefarious reasons. The events of Alien Earth have no bearing on the original mission plan. But between 2120 and 2122 something happened that caused W-Y to seek out LV-426.

In Alien Earth we know the Maginot had found all these aliens including Xenomorphs. What would cause W-Y to send the Nostromo to LV-426? Someone from W-Y on Earth is going to get their hands on Xenomorphs. And if they didn’t, they could send another mission to follow the Maginot’s tracks.

Maybe W-Y somehow heard the transmission from LV-426 and figured there would be new aliens to harvest. They were already in the midst of a race to accumulate alien life as evidenced by the Maginot. But recent events have forced W-Y to be more aggressive in their tactics, so they decide to press a bunch of unprepared space truckers into service on short notice and send Ash to help.

Maybe W-Y has no idea what they’ll find on LV-426. They might be hoping for more Xenomorphs, but it’s sort of a shot in the dark for them.

If I’m right then Alien Earth doesn’t really need to flow directly into Alien. Season 1 could potentially end with W-Y calling Ash on Thedus and telling him to reprogram the Nostromo and replace the science officer while they continue fighting with Prodigy on Earth over the Maginot specimens on a second front.

My prediction is that we’re going to learn that the Xenos can communicate with each other through EM fields. Basically a call to the eggs to say “hey, life forms here, wake up.” We’ve already seen that Wendy can interact with remote computers, so she’s probably picking up on that same field.

But why can none of the other children/“Lost Boys” hear it? Aren’t they all of the same sort of design? I get that she has more experience in recognizing the differences between noises and signal, but she just experienced it as a loud painful scream that apparently none of the others heard/experienced at all …

Or did Boy Genius who has Peter Pan delusions make Wendy different and special from the other “Lost Boys” just as she was in the story? Not just favorite because she was first? For … reasons?

I foresee a future conversation between boy genius and ambitious Curly where it is explained to her that she will never be the leader of the Lost Boys because she was designed to be a Curly, not a Wendy. Then, Curly will probably burn the whole thing to the ground.

Wouldn’t the simplest explanation be that the Maginot had dropped by the same egg cache as that in Alien, to get the eggs? These aliens are presumably newly discovered, so finding two egg batches on different planets would seem a stretch.

Well, they were found (by the Nostromo) in the wreckage of a spaceship. As in all SF, it’s a small galaxy.

Yeah, this makes the most sense. W-Y knows what planet the Maginot got the Xenomorph from, so they just send the Nostromo to the same place.

A line in A:E specifically mentions that the eggs were discovered on a moon. (And LV-426 is a moon.)

I don’t think the timeline works. The Maginot was on a 65 year journey. LV-246 is less than a year’s voyage from Earth. The Maginot timeline isn’t perfectly clear but it seems like they found the Xenomorphs before they went into cryo for the long journey home. They would have found them much farther away and decades earlier.

Also, I would expect that W-Y would have sent someone to investigate the Space Jockey and his ship a long time ago if the Maginot had known about it for 50 odd years. The advanced technology on the ship would be at least as valuable as the Xenomorphs you’d think.

At the start of the first episode they were heading back to Earth and were only 4 months away. They got a bunch of different aliens species, not just the xenos we know and love. I think the 65 year mission was exploring a whole bunch of different places. Considering how the Alien movies usually go, I’m guessing LV-426 was the last place they stopped at before heading home.

So that would make the timeline something like this:

2055: USCSS Maginot launches on it’s 65 year alien retreival mission
2055 + T1: Maginot finds creepy crawly 1
2055 + T2: Maginot finds creepy crawly 2
2055 + T3: Maginot finds creepy crawly 3
2055 + T4: Maginot finds creepy crawly 4
2118-19: Maginot finds Xenomorph eggs and the Space Jockey on LV-426.
2120: Maginot cargo gets loose and they crash on Earth
2120: USCSS Nostromo launches on it’s 2 year mission to Thedus
2121: Nostromo reaches Thedus and gets the cargo
2121: W-Y decides to reroute the Nostromo LV-426 without telling the crew
2120: Mother wakes the Nostromo up and sends them to LV-426, all hell breaks loose again.

While I suppose there’s nothing contradictory in that timeline, it just feels wrong to me. Why write it such that the Maginot is on a 65 year mission if the titular big bad is discovered within 1-2 years travel of Earth? Why send the Nostromo, a ill-equiped commercial vehicle, out of their way to LV-426 when you could have sent a ship and crew similar to the Maginot there in about the same amount of time? Why didn’t anyone on the Maginot mention the Space Jockey or it’s ship? Why didn’t the Nostromo see any evidence that a W-Y crew had been there and taken eggs and/or been attacked?

I feel like the show is still,setting the stage, it’s like a five hour intro.

Who is the scariest child at this point?

I honestly do NOT think it is newest youngest child we have just met … :grinning_face: