I watched the two clips last night, and I wasn’t all too impressed, either. I did like the shot of the predator swinging the xenomorph around by its tail and tossing it like a rag doll, and the shot of it pouncing was pretty cool, but where the two of them are standing and the pred’s just swinging his arm around…it looked rather goofy. Alright, he’s supposed to be kinda young and not well trained, but still…in the comics, the predators always just flung themselves into swarms of these things and kicked ass and took names. The one on one just wasn’t all too thrilling. That’s one problem I have with this flick…there’s only going to be a total of about ten aliens at most, and that shouldn’t be a challenge for the preds. And how the predator rose to his feet was kinda odd…he just seemed to float from his back to his feet.
As for the “Face to Face” scene, the only complaint I have about that is how visible the predator is. The way they’re animating their cloaked form is way too obvious. You could always see the predator in the other films, but you have to look for it, and if they’re standing still, they’re supposed to be hard to see. This guy was as plain as day.
Still, it should be a good deal of fun, so I’m going to see it.
Ohhh, mannnnnnnnn.
Um, then how come in the clips mentioned…
We see literally hundreds if not thousands of them running out of the Predator pyramid?!?! A Predator dream/nightmare? Boy I hope not, way too goofy.
The scene with the hundreds of Aliens is set underneath an actual sky, whereas the trailer tells us that the pyramid is deep beneath the ice. I’m guessing that’s a flashback kind of thing.
What Sir Dirx said. From the featurette, that scenes supposed to be a setup to help explain how sometimes, things get out of hand, and when the predators go boom, that’s why certain civilizations just kinda whimpered out and dissappeared without a trace (like the Mayans…they kinda just dissappeared, right? I’m not too keen on my history, but judging from the way Anderson’s fudged the plot, niether is he).
In this movie, the events that take place start off with a group of about eight explorers getting stuck in a chamber with face huggers. Who knows if any of the next team that goes in to find out what happened get impregnated, but I’m guessing at that point, those people are pretty much going to be fodder. Plus, the preds only bring a queen and the eggs. With a pyramid burried in Antarctica, where are they going to get a sizeable amount of hosts for the aliens to make the hunt a challenge?
I’m just so torn with this film. I’ve thought it would make an awesome movie ever since I read the first comic, and it’s great to see the predator in action again, as well as the aliens…but the set up is worse than that of Alien: Ressurrection. At least that one didn’t fuck up the already existing mythos and history of the alien story. The big underlying theme of those films was “We can’t let these things get back to Earth.” To go ahead and say “Oh, they’ve already been here several times over in our past” is just fucking stupid.
Fox ran a special tonight, and according to that, the stories also been written that the predators came to Earth back when humans weren’t more than just cavemen, and taught them all about civilization simply so they could use earth as a hunting ground. I loved Predator 2s little tip of the hat to say “We’ve been here before,” but that little rewrite of our own history is equally stupid.
Why didn’t they get Cameron to do this thing, huh?
He ultimately turned down T3 which was completely his francise (creatively speaking that is) so there was no chance he would have wanted to be involved with this project. Shame though, the movie he would have made, my god…
No really established director wanted to touch AVP not only because its a ‘sequel’ of sorts, but because ‘ar-tist’ types looked down their noses at it, considering it incredibly gimmicky and silly, nothing more than a fanboy’s wet dream (and this may turn out to be true :()
Its one of the reasons it languished for so long. Established directors thought it beneath them, and rookie directors thought it way too big to try and take on!
I still don’t think this is a big deal. So a dozen aliens are in this underground pyramid in Antartica and they’re all gonna get killed by a couple Predators. Nobody outside W/Y will ever find out or believe it if they did. As I said in an earlier post it kinda explains how, 150 years later, ‘the company’ knows so much about the alien from just the transmission the Nostromo relays back and why they wanted it so bad.
Remember in Jurrasic Park 2 nobody believed Malcolm, and should have had a lot more proof.
No I don’t, because there was only one Jurrasic Park movie.
The actual plot of it, I think, sounds rather cool - the premise anyway. But then, I though that Resident Evil could handily be made into a brilliant movie. Its Paul Anderson’s inept filmaking and ability to destroy scripts that really makes it all suck.
It’s officially a stinker. RottenTomatoes currently puts it’s freshness rating at 8%
No offense, but you can’t “destroy” a script that’s a p.o.s. to begin with. You’ll get no argument from me that he’s not a good director, but let’s face facts–most of the written material he’s been given has been crap from the start, too.
Not to jump on the Crap on Anderson bandwagon, but in the case of AVP he has both story and screenplay credit. And since he’s the director, if this movie turns out to be a turd, well then it was out of his ass it was shat…
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I still don’t think this is a big deal. So a dozen aliens are in this underground pyramid in Antartica and they’re all gonna get killed by a couple Predators. Nobody outside W/Y will ever find out or believe it if they did. As I said in an earlier post it kinda explains how, 150 years later, ‘the company’ knows so much about the alien from just the transmission the Nostromo relays back and why they wanted it so bad.
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It’s not just that the aliens have been here recently, it’s that, according to his story, predators have been dropping off hives on Earth for centuries! That little scene in the beginning with the hundreds of them rushing the predators on top of the pyramid…that’s supposed to take place on Earth as well. And that’s why I think this guy is a tool.
And the reason that the company knew that there was something to send the Nostromo after was because they had already translated the damn signal before sending the Nostromo. Think about it…even if the events of this movie are going to be involved in the Alien cannon (which I hope to God they don’t), unless the beacon gave off some really specific details about what was on board that ship, all the company would know is that one alien space craft went down because of another hostile alien craft. With knowledge of both the predators and xenomorphs, the thought that other intelligent life exists out there, it could have been anything. So, even with knowledge of the xenomorph, the company still had no idea what kind of alien species was sending out the beacon. Hence, trying to use this movies plot fuck-up as a means of tying the films together and giving the company some sort of pre-ordained knowledge of exactly what was on LV401 (I think that’s right), is really silly.
There was a half hour special about it last night on fox and I watched it while I was waiting for Dog Soldiers to come on.
Nothing about the special made me want to go see it more. In fact, by the end of the special I was getting pretty sick of all the Matrix-equse slow motion shots that are apparently going to be in the movie.
NOTE TO STUPID DIRECTORS: THE MATRIX WAS A COOL MOVIE AND USED THE SLOW MOTION THING IN AN INTERSTING WAY. PUTTING GRATUTIOUS SLOW MOTION SHOTS IN YOUR MOVIES DOES NOT MAKE IT COOL! IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE NO OTHER IDEAS AND MAKES ME NOT WANT TO WASTE THE MONEY!
Sorry about that.
Oh,and the aliens were way too exposed and well lit. I always felt those things looked better then they were partially obsured by darkness, or seen as little as possible.
It’s up to a whole whopping 11% now. Frankly the reviews of the film are more entertaining than the film appears to be. [
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Apparently, they “fixed” that in the final cut.
(emphasis in the original).
…about these two species:
The “aliens” are semi-intelligent monsters whose veins pulse with molecular acid(which eats all known metals).Their sole goal is to find warm-blloded animals that they can lay their eggs in, so as to nourish their young (the "exploding chest: syndrome). Outside of this, they don’t seem to do much.
The “predators” arehighly intelligent beings who like to hunt their prey…they prefer intelligent prey, like humans, who can provide them more fun.
So, exactly WHY are they coming together?
I wonder if the set dresser for Predator 2 knew that one little joke was going to spawn an industry?
As I understand it, the prefer formidable prey. Intelligence certainly makes your prey tougher to take down, but it’s not the sole requirement. I can see how hunting the Alien would make for good stories in the Old Predators Retirement Home.
Didn’t the first Aliens vs. Predator comic story come out before Predator 2?
And just out of curiosity, why are they calling it AVP: Aliens vs. Predator? Isn’t the whole point of giving it a monicer so that you don’t have to use the full name? I mean, they didn’t call it LXG: The League of Extraordinary Gentlement. You got one, or the other.
Yeah, yeah, I know…of all things to complain about when it comes to this movie…
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I know this was a comic book and a game but now it’s apparently a movie!
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Oh great
What would bugsbunny say
Declan