All Non-(US)Americans: What do you like about America/ns?

I know this sounds like trolling for compliments but lately IRL, almost all the “good about America” stuff I hear is brayed forth by people whose opinion about this subject is an article of faith, and not necessarily based in fact. In “What’s Wrong with American Toilets” (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=235584), a few sensibilities were offended by a “this is wrong with America” statement. Things were smoothed over, but I have to tell ya that on the network evening news it’s rare to hear anything good about anyone, and when it’s happening “over there” (wherever that may be) the “nothing good” is, often enough, about America or Americans.

I know we’re all good friends here (well, except for him ;)). so I invite our friends from elsewhere to tell us the story we don’t ever hear (at least not from anyone without an ulterior motive): “What do you like or admire about America or Americans?” In the interest of fair play, I invite interested Non-Americans to start a thread about what Americans like about the place you call home.

SSgtBaloo

What I like more than anything is just how damn **friendly ** they are. Truely there are few consistently friendly people on earth. I’ve travelled pretty widely and only the Irish and the Thais come close.

Individually I mean, not when they are executing their ethnic minorities or dropping bombs on foreigners. And they may be ignorant, arrogant, stupid, nationalistic - whatever - but give them five minutes and they are inviting you to something.

In fact, it is that disparity between their god-awful political and media class and the common people that is so heartening. It sort of gives you hope that just maybe they can take back ownership of their country one day.

The first amendment especially pertaining to freedom of speech. The degree to which it has enabled such a broad (and occasionally disturbing) spectrum of beliefs and ideas is absolutely extraordinary in a global or historical context. Its inclusion in the Bill of Rights and the fierceness with which it’s used is by far the greatest thing America has done as far as leading by example.

CSI, Southpark and The Simpsons.

The friendliness and open nature I’ve generally felt with most Americans I’ve had dealings with.

Noam Chomsky.

There are loads more but that first one is a major thing the rest of us look to and cite when arguing for similar rights for ourselves.

The following is my general oppinion of Americans
Americans are friendly and open about how they feel. They are honest and hardworking, care hugely about their families and are supportive of friends. They are good humoured, and though nieve about other cultures are ready to learn about them.

Next is a comparison between English and Americans
Compared to the English, Americans are far more open, it is easier to judge an American’s motives and wishes. Where an English person might have hidden depths or hidden vices, an American is more likely to wear their strengths and weaknesses on their sleeve so to speak.

A few choice words,

Back when I was younger, in another life,(I was wandering the shoestring trail across the Subcontinent to SE Asia at the time), I enrolled in a 2 week course at a Buddhist monestary located just outside of Kathmandu, Nepal. The course studies took up most of our time but in the evenings we’d sit outside on the roof for open air dining and just talk the way travellers do. There were maybe 50 people from many nationalities enrolled in this course. Diversity doesn’t quite describe it.

Evening after evening, I would sit down to eat with 10-15 different people. The discussions were always lively to say the least. I don’t know that I’ll bother to convey the international situation at the time, suffice to say America enjoyed about the same level of bitching and moaning from all and sundry.

Now America was well represented within this group and after a few nights it became clear that every night someone was going to bring up one hot topic or another. These were understandably open-minded, generally educated types, so the conversations while passionate never really degenerated into attack. Maybe the setting helped, who can say. I mostly stayed out of it and let the Americans defend themselves, and they did a fine job of holding their own. But, not unlike myself, they were taking it from all sides, and were often facing perscpectives they had perhaps not seen before. World problems, were not resolved but many weighty issues were wrestled with during the evenings.

The time came when the Europeans at the table turned to me and wondered what I felt about America, being nearly a roommate as a Canadian.

So I pointed out a few things that these conversations made very clear for me.

Americans enjoy a standard of personal liberty that continues to be the envy of the rest of the world. (y’know, except Canada :wink: )

The guy on the top of the mountain makes a pretty easy target if you’re feeling inclined to throw some clods of dirt. Zero points for originality.

When European countries, most not larger than American states, can get together and agree on anything - a president, a currency, a foreign or domestic policy - then, and only then should they consider that maybe they know what America ought to do. Or perhaps just temper their vocabulary to acknowledge so.

I also pointed out that any night in America, right after the news, you could surf channel to channel and see comedians giving the government/politicians/pres heaps. Each night, every night. America laugh’s it’s ass off at it’s own flaws, who else does that?

I like to think I gave them a little to think about that evening. When I looked around after these comments I think the most surprised faces I saw were Americans!

Every country with television and even a hint of democracy on this planet does that.

Americans do not have a standard of personal liberty higher than most of Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and I suspect many other contries I know less well. The fact that American politicians are suggesting changing the constitution to make gay mariage illegal is just one clear sign of this.

The size of USA has no bearing on how well its people act and are perceived, or how important USA is. Otherwise Canada would be more important than USA :wink:

I’ve been to America twice and I loved the place. I found the people to be helpful and friendly [and I love the accents].
I couldn’t get over the size of the shops and the low prices, I was walking around Walmart with my eyes out on stalks …
And the weather was nice too! :smiley:

I find most of the American’s I’ve met to be very enthusiastic about stuff, which is cool. Additionally, they really, really love their country, and are really really vocal about it, which I respect, even if it does come accross as heavy handed sometimes. The shopping is fabulous. In short, it’s a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there (although I’m not sure why I wouldn’t).

That being said, I have to take exception to this:

The standard of personal liberty is certainly the envy of some parts of the world, but I don’t think your average Britton or Aussi is really envious of the personal liberty enjoyed by their US counterparts, if only because their brand is pretty well the same.

Southern BBQ

It would be astonishing if it weren’t. Locke is Locke.

I like Americans’ honesty, intelligence, cordiality and sense of humor.

I love Americans so much I married one! :smiley:

The US is one of my favourite countries on earth. And it’s a frustrating place at times, too. Sounds contradictory, but I suppose it’s mostly that the US is big and in-your-face with everything. It’s truly a place you love and hate at the same time, where I note that the “hate” is only there because of the love, or else it would be indifference.

My mother-in-law was in the hospital recently, including the few days I was in town. The amount of bullshit a MediCare patient is put through is an absolute disgrace for any civilised country: I’ve seen better health care systems in Africa. For real.
And then there’s politics. I’m not a radical lefty, at least not over here, but the road the US seems to have taken politically is one that fills me with rage and fear. Luckily, a lot of Americans seem to share that point of view, so we’ll see in October.
Ignorance. I know, you can’t blame a people for its lack of education, or more specifically, lack of outside perspective, but it’s astonishing how limited the scope of a lot of Americans is. But immediately, I have to add some nuance: I’m from an extremely small country. An American can live his entire life without leaving the US, and can still be a well-traveled person. The scope is different over here. But all in all, it’s obvious that American education is not geared towards dealing with the outside world very well. (“No, Holland is not the capital of Denmark”, etc. :)). Simple things, but sort of… annoying nonetheless.

And you know what? All of that is hugely offset by the fact that Americans on the whole are such good-natured, friendly, enthusiastic people. Separate politics and people, and half of my complaints above disappear. Hell, even my remarks about the one-sided education are offset by the fact that almost all Americans I’ve met are willing to learn, and genuinely interested in hearing about my country, language, et cetera. Americans may not be the best educated people in the world, but they sure are among the most curious, a trait I value greatly.

Oh, and from a consumer perspective, it’s paradise. My wife’s in for a rude awakening when she moves to Holland. Service with a smile? What the hell is that? Gum will back me up on this. :slight_smile:

All in all, I love the US as a country for its amazing diversity and beauty. And I love its people for being among the friendliest people on the damn planet. Whether I would enjoy living in the US, I don’t know. I’m sure I could if I were as well off financially as I am now, but it certainly does NOT come across as a place for “the weak”, for lack of a better term. It’s a very… hard country. Not very social, not very caring towards its less fortunate citizens. Vietnam Vets begging for money outside a 7/11… it’s a damn outrage. But if you’re doing all right financially, I can’t think of a lot of countries that would top it as a potential place to live.

And who knows, maybe some day I will. :slight_smile:

Your tendency to fish for compliments and your excessive superficiality.

Coldfire

I certainly do. I hope Heloise doesn’t complain to a waitress, ever, here. Let alone write to a government official.
I hope her clogs fit. I bet clogmakers have the same attitude as the rest of our shopkeepers. She might lose some toes, you know. :slight_smile:

I can’t agree on the education of Americans. Maybe I’ve met the smart ones only?

Could well be, gum. Most Americans I meet in Amsterdam happen to be pretty smart, but then, they’re usually exchange students and the like. Have you been to the US? Of course, things vary, but I’ve met plenty of people who just didn’t know anything about the world outside their state, let alone country. Mind you, it didn’t make them assholes or anything, and rarely have I encountered the stereotypical “ugly American” (I meet more “ugly Dutchmen”, on average!), but I still often wonder, “how the hell can you be 40 years old, and know so little about the outside world?”. Not a judgment, more of a bewilderment.

Sadly, I haven’t been to the States, yet, Coldfire. The Americans I’ve met are people from another message-board [ :eek: ] who visited me at home. I found them well educated - one speaks Finnic, and Arabic, another one Portuguese. [no-one speaks Dutch. hehehe].

I guess you’re not talking about appearance when mentioning ‘ugly’, right?

Honest, This may sound like ass-kissing, but I LIKE Americans. Even though I’ll *never * live anywhere else than in this shitty, lovely, small country.

Ah, but my superficiality is superficial. :smiley:

–SSgtBaloo

[slight highjack-since I was born in the U.S.] gum and coldfire - - I’ve been to Amsterdam (twice!! YAY me, I know!) and absolutely LOVED it!! I’ve said before to friends that I’d love to live there some day, but unless some lovely Dutch man wants to wisk me off, it probably isn’t going to happen (note: I didn’t say “never”! ;)). (Lately, however, I’ve been daydreaming about being wisked off by a Scot!! (YUMMY!) :D) Heb een grote dag!! [end highjack]

“but unless some lovely Dutch man wants to wisk me off”

Stranger things have happened. :smiley:

“Heb een grote dag”, that cracked me up. :slight_smile:
It’s a literal translation, but not something a Dutchman would actually say. Rather, we’d say something like “Mazzel” (take care, Yiddish), “Tot Ziens” (until we see each other again, shorteded). Glad you liked the city, though!

But don’t go after Coldfire, or you’ll have to suffer the wrath of Heloise! (BTW I’m glad to read in the other thread that she’s allright)

Coldfire forgot to mention that ‘grote dag’ is also semantically incorrect; it means ‘big day’. If you mean ‘great day’, it would have to be ‘geweldige dag’ or something like that. Sorry for the nit-pick, and thanks for the compliment on the city.