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…Note that people rarely complain about Polish-Americans or Irish-Americans retaining their sense of culture and history…
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Only because this is an US-based board and your foreign guests are being polite to their hosts. Almost 6 billion people think it’s silly to refer to oneself by two nationalities unless one really has both passports.
I’m white. I mean, like, Jim Gaffigan white. Audience at a Kenny Chesney concert white. Cops never pull me over, even when I’m legitimately speeding white. Mayonnaise and mustard on the same sandwich white.
I’m Irish-American, which up until about 60 years ago was white-with-an-asterisk, but apparently we’re in the club now.
[QUOTE=Biggirl]
Nope. Never. But then I don’t really identify with Africans. Because I’m not African. I don’t even identify to Africa like Irish people whose grandparents were born here identify with Ireland or American born Polish people identify with Poland or. . . you get the idea.
Africans are as foreign to me as any other foreigner no matter where they are from.
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Biggirl
I’m with you on that although many people do identify with some foreign country. I recently had an odd conversation with a Sudani girl. Some Black Americans managed to trace their lineage back to a name that sounded vaguely like the girl’s and decided (uninvited) to pay a visit. A non-English-speaking grandmother answered the door of the hut and hilarity ensued. When the girl arrived to translate, it didn’t get any better. The old lady kept wondering why, what she considered as white people, would claim they were related to her. After that, it was mainly a question of “what do you want? Why have you come? I’m busy!”
I’m white, but nothing compared to the pastiness you can see in some parts of Glasgow. During the summer, when some locals show off their bodies in the park, I swear some actually give off light.
I live on White Street…does that make me any whiter? There are two black people living on this road, too (possibly ~2% of Glasgow’s black population, judging by my observations), and they think it’s brilliant.
[QUOTE=Biggirl]
It’s not like it’s a secret or anything but people are continually surprised to find this out about me. I was reading another thread in which another not-secretly black poster was asked: You’re BLACK???
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It was a joke.
[QUOTE=Biggirl]
Whoosed right over me! Boy do I feel stupid.
Anyway— on with the thread.
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I wasn’t trying to call you stupid. I was merely trying to point out that one of the premises in your OP was false, as was noted in the thread you referred to.
She and I have butted heads a lot. Invariably in those conversations she referred to herself as a black woman. Usually the topics were race-related. If there is anything I am sure of on the Dope it is that **YWTF **identifies as a black woman.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
I wasn’t trying to call you stupid. I was merely trying to point out that one of the premises in your OP was false, as was noted in the thread you referred to.
She and I have butted heads a lot. Invariably in those conversations she referred to herself as a black woman. Usually the topics were race-related. If there is anything I am sure of on the Dope it is that **YWTF **identifies as a black woman.
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Oh, I didn’t think you were calling me stupid— I was calling me stupid. I did see that later on in the thread you did say you were joking-- but it happens enough for real for me to want to start this thread.
Plus, I was curious. There are a whole passle more of us melanin enhanced than there used to be.
Hey Stuffy, remember Ask The Black Person thread? Good times, good times.
[QUOTE=Biggirl]
.Plus, I was curious. There are a whole passle more of us melanin enhanced than there used to be.
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HAH! I knew it. You foks are sneaking around behind our backs and having sex! With each other! What a clever, clever plan.
I’m one of those people in an awkward place where it’s hard to really identify with any racial group. Native American, black, and (horror of horrors) Irish are all on my maternal side. From my father’s side, there’s Dutch and Indonesian. All those recessive genes came together to create the whitest person the world has ever seen: pink skin, freckles, frizzy red hair, blue eyes.
Despite the looks, though, culturally I find very little in common with white people, having been raised by my mother. It’s odd, but just saying “white” is so much easier than giving someone a family history lesson. And, really, I doubt anyone else really cares all that much, aside from that guy who dumped me when he found out I wasn’t white enough. Oy.
Questions like this are sometimes valid - for instance, if Obama runs for President (which I hope he will) it would be interesting to get some input on what black Dopers think, or have heard, regarding the issue or non-issue of him being black.
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A snowballs’ chance in hell springs to mind.
Hey Biggirl, we’re old school, we’re probably the only one’s here who remember it.
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison]
…is like being Danish plus more booze.
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That is just not possible.
I am mulatto. By American standards I am black, but I would think that would deny half of what I am, which it is kinda stupid in itself. I am also Latino.
If you need to know, I couldn’t dance if my life depended on it.
If I was American, I’m pretty sure I’d be Black, or at least Bi-racial. In South Africa, I’m Coloured, with around 12.5% Khoe-khoen (Khoi) heritage. I look a little Hispanic, maybe a little Pacific Islander.