All Things NFC East 2005

Just saw this thread, Eagles fan checking in. You know, the “hapless and pathetic” team that has the best overall record in the league over the past 5 years… (Yes, I know no Super Bowl victory. Ah well, sooner or later…)

I fully expect we’ll be back atop the conference by the end of the season. I’m thinking likely an overall 12-4 record taking either 4 or all 5 of the remaining NFC East games. This coming game against Denver looks like the toughest game left on the schedule.

I figure a defense that holds LaDainian Tomlinson to 7 yards on 17 carries is doing pretty well. David Akers is coming back & the rest of the special teams played their strongest game of the year. Offense been sputtering lately but I expect them to adjust as well.

As always: Dallas Sucks.

Carry on.

By the way, has anyone noticed the Eagles are the only team in the NFC East to play in the place in the team name? Two of you other teams aren’t even the state/district! What’s up with that?

Well the NY Giants play in North Jersey because New Yorkers just think of North East Jersey as a Suburb, just like Yonkers except more expensive tolls.
You’ll notice it has no effect on ratings or attendance and we have room left over for those new guys the Titans. I mean Jets. :wink:

Criminy.

Mean-spirited towards whom? I’ll be honest, you’ve got me mystified over here. Which posts were necessary?

Again, to whom? I said “we”, not soulmurk. I just reread my post, and I can’t see a way to read condescension into it (correcting people’s double negatives in a football thread like you were grading a paper, now that’s condescending). Anyway, if it clarifies anything, I’m an Eagles fan, and all I said was that nobody in the division has proven anything. We – fans of teams in the NFC East – don’t have enough evidence upon which to draw any strong conclusions about the balance of power this season.

Certainly they would. I just think you’re fudging way too much on the value scale. Say I’m the Bears, evaluating Pennington. This is a guy who’s going to be at least 30 by the time he throws his next meaningful pass, at which time no team can be certain he won’t be completely shot. Even if I’m being optimistic, I have to think that there’s at least a significant chance that Pennington’s never going to be a great quarterback, especially since I’m not even that close to 100 % sure he’s going to be capable of just being a quarterback. Meanwhile I’ve just taken Cedric Benson at a spot where I had legitimate options at a half dozen different need positions, so I must have great faith in his ability, right? I’m not saying the Bears wouldn’t answer the phone if the Jets offered Pennington for a couple of picks or something, but Benson’s ostensibly their franchise back, as far as the organization is concerned. You can’t give up a #4 overall pick before he ever goes through a training camp, and especially not for damaged goods.

That fact actually does make a difference in the perceived tone of the post. I apologize.

And I agree with your assessment. The division is far from being decided. It could very well remain pretty close all year long. I know the Skin’s last three games are intra-division, and the results of those three alone could change everything for all four teams.

Aikman Efficiency Ratings/Offense*


Aikman NFL      Team             Rating 
  6.    2.  **Washington Redskins**   83.7 
  7.    13. Denver Broncos        82.1 
  9.    15. **New York Giants**       81.6 
  15.   6.  **Dallas Cowboys**        78.5 
  16.   7.  **Philadelphia Eagles**   78.4 
  32.   11. Arizona Cardinals     58.6 

Aikman Efficiency Ratings/Defense*


Aikman NFL      Team             Rating  
  4.    7.   **Dallas Cowboys**       85.8 
  9.    20.  **Philadelphia Eagles**  80.1 
  12.   15.  Arizona Cardinals    76.6 
  18.   4.   **Washington Redskins**  72.2 
  20.   31.  **New York Giants**      71.8 
  23.   22.  Denver Broncos       69.9 

Post yer picks?

If it’s good enough for his brother, why not?

Arz @ Dallas
Wash @ NYG
Phil @ Den

The odds are that Pennington is done. Finished. Over. As in never playing again. Look up the history of QBs who were effective after rotator cuff problems; it ain’t a long list. He’s worth a late-round pick at most, and that’s not even thinking about the salary issues. Factor those in, and he’s a net minus to any team.

I love my Giants, but they haven’t really had a consistently good quarterback since Phil Simms. As my father says, “In the first half, the Giants play to win. In the second half, they play not to lose.”

Adam

Again, Shockey blocks better than any of those guys. (With the exception of possibly Whitten, but Shockey is a better receiving threat.) Also, Shockey dropped 6 balls last season. The way you hear people talk about his drops, you’d think it was over double that. IIRC, Hilliard led the team in dops last year, and Plax leads it this year. But Shockey always draws the ire of Giants fans for his drops. I didn’t understand it last year, and still don’t this year. Are we still holding a grudge from San Francisco, or what?

Martin is not an aberration when it comes to # of carries. A decent length career is over 3000 carries. Tiki has only 1600.

And Peyton’s recent contract is relatively cap friendly, from what I’ve heard. Good point about his rookie contract going the distance; I was unaware of that. On the plus side, the Colts were able to resign their stud QB and stud WR, but not their stud RB. As far as I can see, we will only have a stud QB and stud WR to resign; Tiki won’t be around long enough to cause a quandry like Edge.

You know what pisses me off? I can’t debunk this.

Also, good feedback from several of you on the Pennington to the Bears thing. Yeah, you guys are probably right.

Thank god I’m not a primary Jets fan. That would suck balls.

Ditto to yours – home teams all the way.

Arz @ Dallas
Wash @ NYG
Phil @ Den

Looks right to me, but I be rooting for Arz to win.

The only reason I agree is that in a toss-up, always go with the home team. I think Dallas is the most solid pick of the three.

Unfortunately I have to agree with the consensus picks. Friggin’ fraggin’ Denver…

Any over/under picks for Andy Reid’s pass/rush ratio? That’s the big talk here this week: will we ever see two running plays in a row ever again? Worse: will we see 25 passes in a row (while leading a game!) again…

Washington beats the Giants this week. I guarantee* it.

*notaguarantee

Giants win. I guarantee* it.
aguarantee*

[sub]**hey, I got nothing to lose if I’m wrong, so what the hell.[/sub]

Giants will win and I will be there to celebrate.

I guarantee** it also.

**If they lose I’ll be a very unhappy camper