Am I the only one who thinks video games are TOO advanced?

I’m assuming you mean on PC and not SNES or later consoles. I had the original WC for PC and my friend had it for SNES. As good as I was on the PC (and I was dang good) I simply couldn’t do it on SNES. Maybe playing it on a console now using a joystick would be easier, but I could not get that D-pad to do what I wanted.

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I like simple games. Not necessarily easy, as in easy to win, but simple, as in easy to understand.

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I remember that! We had one in nineteen-ought…dickety…something.

I collect obsolete computers and game consoles. I currently have two Intellivisions and a few games for them.

Back in the old days, when developers didn’t have a lot of graphic power to work with, they had to make their games stand out by featuring excellent game design. Some of the best games I’ve ever played come from old consoles, arcade games, and the like.

Games that were all about playability and game design would include Pac-Man, Asteroids, Tetris, Lemmings, Space Invaders, and the like. Simple graphics, simple controls, simple concepts, but awesome game design.

Too often now game designers substitute bells and whistles and pretty scenery for good game design. So you get a Doom 3 that looks beautiful but sucks to play.

Back in the old days, when developers didn’t have a lot of graphic power to work with, they had to make their games stand out by featuring excellent game design. Some of the best games I’ve ever played come from old consoles, arcade games, and the like.

Games that were all about playability and game design would include Pac-Man, Asteroids, Tetris, Lemmings, Space Invaders, and the like. Simple graphics, simple controls, simple concepts, but awesome game design.

Too often now game designers substitute bells and whistles and pretty scenery for good game design. So you get a Doom 3 that looks beautiful but sucks to play.

  1. One thing to try with Halo is a different key layout. I had it where the left stick handled forward backward and turn not strafe; the right stick got that. This is a lot more intuitive to Mario-seasoned brain patterns where you just want to be able to entirely drive the character with the left hand. Unfortunately I don’t think that you can ever become the uber god with this layout, but I could kick everyone elses butts based on strategy for several months before our resident power gamer discovered the single-shot pistol-to-the-head kill and seasoned his thumb to be able to insta-kill regardless that he was doing a backwards somersault through the air and you were running through a forest of columns. :dubious: At this point, of course, everyone stopped playing the game.

  2. The problem with games that has caused this is simply that instead everyone everytime creating a new game, everything is sequels and rip-offs of old ones now. Civilization was a good solid game, and easy to pick up. But no one wants to play the same game again–however the producers don’t want to dump money into an untested game. So they end up taking the old game and adding more things you can do so you can let your brain glide on all the stuff that is the same from the last incarnation, while you now focus on the new stuff.
    Certainly the 20 buttons on a XBox controller is intimidating, but if you look at something like Warcraft III–you’ve got to fight a real time battle against your enemy, at the same time as managing your town, at the same time as collecting treasures, at the same time as managing your heroes (individually.) So again, compare that to Civilization. We may still be able to do most everything with a mouse, but the game certainly does essentally require that you’ve played all strategy games out there since Civilization so that you’ve advanced at the same pace as has the game structure. Jumping in straight without having played any of the games in between and trying to micromanage five separate things with one brain can just as equally result in melt-down as Halo.

Maybe…I’m playing GTA San Andreas and traveling between the three main cities is like taking a fucking road trip.

I have to disagree with you here, given the ability to play mouse/keyboard vrs the best you can find with a joystick of their choosing and in anygame I will spank the hell out of them, had a friend set up his pc version of halo so he could use a (ps1 game pad I think…with the dual analog sticks) his joystick and when we went head to head he never stood a chance unless it was at long range.

the twitch factor is massive in those games, with a mouse on high sensativity you are unrestricted in how fast you can turn and aim in any direction, even on the highest setting the halo controls are slow in comparison. slow=dead :frowning:
if you want to give it a shot the only fps I have loaded atm is tribes 1 its a free download, the hard part is finding the 1.8-1.11 patch …come to think of it that wouldnt even be fair, there is no way in hell you could fly and fight with a joystick.

I’ve got aon old Coleco! It belonged to my mother when she was younger. Last time we tried to hook it up we couldn’t get it to work quite right. I really wish we could get it working again.

The reason I find mouse and keyboard superior to the joystick controllers is that with the mouse and keyboard I can do a zillion different things at once without having to give up control of motion. With the controllers, it would seem you’re limited to at most using both thumbs and both index fingers at the same time, unless there’s some newfangled controller I haven’t seen. On the keyboard and mouse, I use about eight fingers at once in addition to the movement of my right wrist-- no fingers wasted on gripping a controller (okay, excepting a couple for the mouse). Also, just considering how fast we type, it seems like the position in which the hand rests on a keyboard allows for a lot faster movement between different keys than I’d imagine is possible with a thumb on a controller.

Now, if a PC game (of the FPS or similar variety) requires me to remove my right hand from the mouse or my left hand from the left end of the keyboard in order to reach some other key, then it’s getting too complicated.