Amazing legal highs!! or, has anybody ever actually tried this?

I was surfing around last night and I found this website called . The owners of the site “warn” that their products will fuck you up. I looked up as many of the ingredients as they listed, all are legal, although some of them would probably spark a false positive on a drug test (they warn you about this, too.)

After a bit of research, I decided to go ahead and order the one called Purple Haz’e. It’s made out of lavender flowers. I figured that this would be the best thing to get in terms of desired effect vs. risk of a positive drug test. Mellow Yell’o and Boca Coca also looked pretty safe, drug-test wise. When I actually have some money coming in (I start a new job next week), I may order and try them too.

I decided to stay away from Ragin’ Red because it’s made out of mostly poppy seed, and Wild Child because all the ingredients aren’t listed, oh, and the one that’s legal… for now…

Has anybody ever actually tried these products? Do they, in fact, fuck you up? Are they a good legal alternative to a variety of substances of an illicit nature that I’ve been forced to give up because employers seem more interested in an employee’s bodily fluids than they are in job performance?
Is this a Cafe Society thread?

Just curious.

er, that would be “Coca Bolo”- serves me right for posting without first going to the site to look up product names.

I knew a guy who spent a ton of money on a variety pack of these things. Did they get him stoned?

According to him “well, maybe”. It’s hard to seperate the effects of a substance from the effects of the ritual of smoking, oxygen deprivation and your own expectations. He thought he felt a bit different, but couldn’t really conclusively place it on the drugs. All in all a waste of money.

Thea sweetheart, please don’t waste your money. In the first place, if you really wanted smokes like this, you could save a lot of money by buying the herbs in bulk from your local herb shop and blending them and rolling them yourself. I’ve tried that. I once had a friend who had an herb shop and she blended some interesting formulas of dried herbs for smoking. Including lavender, peppermint.

In the second place, it won’t get you “fucked up,” so don’t set yourself up for disappointment. We’re not talking about marijuana here. Lavender has a nice aroma when it burns, but it will not affect your brain at all. The right herbal blends will help to calm you down, relax, a bit, but certainly won’t get you “high.” Other blends including coltsfoot and cubeb free up your lungs from congestion or asthma.

What would be interesting would be to try smoking some authentic American Indian kinnikkinnik (our longest palindrome). That was an herbal blend they used instead of tobacco.

Now, I have discovered one herbal smoke that actually does do a number on your head. It’s called Original Tara Healing Incense, and is made by a Tibetan lady herbalist in Dharamsala, India. It’s a blend of 31 herbs that relieves fatigue, tension, and depression. It really does work. It does not get you “stoned” the way marijuana does, but it will elevate your mood and take away the cares of the world from your mind for about an hour. Ask your local incense dealer to carry Original Tara Healing Incense.

Did anyone else think this’d be a thread about getting high off being in court?

Concur with Mojo and sven. A friend and I ordered a similar thing back in my crazy teenage years. “Amazing legal highs! Legal now, but for how long?” Well, I won’t say it was exactly a rip-off—IIRC, it was only $10 for a whole bunch of “joints”, and they tasted rather pleasant. But they certainly didn’t get you high.

I’d stick to smoking banana peels.

Yes. :o

Well, the picture of the jar makes for really pretty wallpaper…

I think Salvia is still legal and that will fuck you up.

The fact that this stuff isn’t illegal doesn’t mean its remotely smart to ingest it. The lack of a formal prohibition doesn’t equal even a tacit endorsement. In fact it has ‘caveat emptor*’ written all over it. (Remotely Latin for “Thanks for the money and you’re on your own, sucker.”)

Obviously YMMV but I classify this dreck with “miracle” cures for obesity, impotence, depression, etc. Even if it specifies what you’re ingesting there isn’t the slightest proof of effectiveness, purity or amounts. Stuff that doesn’t even say what it contains is straight from the tradition of snake oil retailiing. You could be ingesting bat guano, grass clippings and talc. “STEP right up, ladies and gentlemen, don’t be afraid now! This mysterious compound will calm nerves, boost energy, cure prolapsed wombs, fallen arches, scurvy, excema and the heartbreak of psoriasis AND reveal the music of the spheres, but it can be yours for just…”

AFAIK the law doesn’t prohibit smoking lavendar or even couch lint, for that matter. Mysterious herbs and spices promising instant highs, mental tranquility, peace of mind, etc. trigger my bullshit alarm. But if you’re absolutely driven to experimentation even vestigal common sense would suggest figuring out if couch lint would do anything for you in the first place.

Well, actually, it isn’t really “mysterious” herbs. The ads for most of the products list at least the major active herbal substance, and what with laws requiring companies to list ingredients on the package, even if I ordered the ones that don’t have the what’s in it posted on the website, it would still be on the label, but I make a general practice of knowing what I’m buying and at least what it’s supposed to do, if not what it actually does before I shell out my money.

I figure that the worst that can happen is I cough a bit and don’t get a buzz, and then at least I’ll know that this product doesn’t work and I won’t buy it again.

I’ve never been averse to experimenting, once I’m reasonably assured that ingesting a particular substance won’t erase or reformat my hard drive. Hence the staying away from the Salvia.

And I’ve heard some anecdotes about couch lint, but my guess is that they’re apocryphal. :wink:

Thea, I’ve been studying and using medicinal herbs for many years, and my advice would be to stay away from this company. My main reaction to that site was, Waaayyyy overpriced, and after viwing the macro close-ups of the products offered, what is in there is of questionable quality.

To break it down specifically:

Mello Yellow contains valerian, passionflower,chamomile, red clover and “spiked with” vanilla. The first three herbs have long been known for their sedative properties, and work quite well in my experience. 24.95 for 4 oz is way overpriced, you’d be better off buying the herbs in bulk and making an infusion (tea) to calm frazzled nerves. The macro view of that blend looked to have a lot of odd bark, when it should be mainly leaf material, excepting valerian root.

Purple Haze. They say it’s just lavender flowers. In which case 24.95 is really a crime. You can get a big bag of lavender flowers ib bulk for that. I couldn’t get the macro close-up on that page. If you can, the material should be all vibrant purple tiny dried flowers. If it’s not, it has a whole lotta something else in it.

Coc’a Bolo. Climbing hydrangea( I’ve never heard of this plant being used medicinally, but I’ll look it up); Kava- used as an anti-anxiety herb, long folk use in the Pacific islands; Yohimbe, used as a male sexual stimulant, but always with a caution advisory, “spiked with” “watermelon”, their quotes. This one looks really questionable to me.

Ragin’ Red. They only list Papaver Somniferum seed as the ingredient, which is not psychoactive. That’s why garden centers can sell the seed (I’m glad, it’s an exquisite flower). It’s the latex of the developing seed pod that is a very potent and useful pain medication; unfortunately, so effective it leads to serious abuse, so banned in the US. The macro view showed a whole lotta other stuff besides poppy seed, so they ain’t telling the whole truth.

Finally, Wild Child. “Lettuce opium” I presume they mean wild lettuce, Lactuca virosa, a weed(in the sense of all over the place) which has been described as a feeble opium. Like Papaver, it’s the latex that is used. The macro view shows a lot of bark and other material, not the resin that would be the active ingredient.

So, to my view, their stuff is incredibly over-priced and the photos they show don’t look like the right plant material. Additionally, I’m not sure how effective, say, chamomile is in a lung delivery. I’ve never heard it advised as the way to go. Smoking is certainly an effective way of using herbs; the popularity of tobacco, marijuana, and opium attests to that. They work, all too well, and with significant detriment to the ol’ body. I’ll run the smoking use of these other herbs by some more knowledgeable, and scrupulous, herbalists. I’d stay away from this company, though.