Amazon Lord of the Rings series; The Rings of Power

I believe that is correct. The rights that Middle-earth Enterprises currently hold date back to 1968, when Tolkien himself sold the film, stage, and merchandising rights to The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings to United Artists.

That was nine years before the posthumous publication of The Silmarillion, and, so, it appears that that book wasn’t included in the rights, nor were the other books which Tolkien’s son Christopher pulled together based on his father’s notes and drafts (e.g., Unfinished Tales, the History of Middle-Earth series, etc.)

Well, there are Smeagol and Deagol, who found the Ring, a couple thousand years after the end of the Second age. They had to come from somewhere. In fact Tolkien said they lived around the Anduin river back in the day. So yeah, no actual records, but still, they were around.

What that means is that Tolkien didn’t provide a backstory for Hobbits prior to the Third Age. They could have been around as long as Haradrim and Easterlings, who are also offshoots of the human race. There is no reason to suppose that they emerged suddenly at the beginning of the Third Age.

Or maybe Sauron was trying to make his own personal version of orcs by corrupting men, like Morgoth had done, just near the end of the 2nd age. He had gotten as far as making them smaller (for reasons of economy) and giving them big feet (because they were going to be foot soldiers) but he was (sort of) destroyed before he could make them evil. So they ended up with their size stunted but their essential human nature intact, and took advantage of their sudden freedom to go forth and multiply, and a couple thousand years later we have The Shire. That’s one way they could have existed only after the 2nd Age was over. Not very scientific, but this is magic and wizardry and stuff like that we are talking about.

Their furry feet were probably to save him money on shoes. Every gold piece not spent on combat boots was a gold piece that could be spent on swords.

It also says “The beginning of Hobbits lies far back in the Elder Days that are now lost and forgotten.”

Just to clarify: I didn’t mean to imply that hobbits didn’t exist in the Second Age — only that there are no canonical hobbit stories from then. So what we’re about to see if strictly fan fiction.

Because this story and these characters (the new hobbit-beings) are not canonical, does that make them fan fiction? I hope it’s professionally-written fiction with coherent stories and well-developed characters. Calling anything not provided for by the original product fan fiction seems to broaden that term beyond useful meaning.

I just saw the new paperback editions of LOTR at a university bookstore, and they all had cover images drawn from the new series - not LOTR itself.

All the commercials I see these days end with Galadriel saying “Evil does not sleep. It waits.” So does that mean Chuck Norris will be playing Sauron?

Reviews are indicating that it is good, but not totally great. Some are raving, but calmer heads are coming in and saying more or less:

Yeah, looks good so far…what is going to happen?

I can’t believe they only produced 8 episodes. When we get these first two, we are 25% through the season they made already.

here a few:
It’s Set Nearly 5,000 Years Before The Lord Of The Rings, And 15,000 Years Before Forrest Gump
One Of The Characters Has A Ton Of Unopened Amazon Boxes Outside Their House
The Rings Of Power will take place against such lush backdrops as Auckland, New Zealand; the Coromandel Peninsula; and downtown Indianapolis.

Brian

I saw a trailer last night, available only to Fire stick users apparently – showing Elrond entering Khazad-Dûm for a meeting with Durin IV. The set design of K-D at its heyday was pretty darn impressive.

I particularly like

The Elves Are A Magical Race Of White Übermensch From The West Who Are Genetically Superior To Those Dirty, Evil, Lazy, Dark Southern And Eastern Men In Every Way

There is no subtext to this. Please stop overthinking it.

I’m watching it now, but we had to retry 5+ times before it finally loaded. Their servers are, not shockingly, swamped.

It is playing for us now and the opening was actually really great.

First episode was really solid.

I’m working hard not to be bothered by things that don’t make much sense though like Galadriel getting on the boat and then trying to swim back.

I bailed after 15 minutes, it was just by the numbers money grab. Life’s too short.

Yes, my wife and I were both like, “Wait…what’s her plan here?”

I have not seen the second episode, but any guesses who that was at the very end of the first episode?

That guy in the end can’t be Gandalf, right? I thought we were told “No Gandalf” in this show.

Not Gandalf, almost surely Sauron

I watched the first two, very good so far.