American foodstuffs - a few questions

Balance beat me to it, but I must back him (her?) up - of course you can get pineapple on pizza. Even on standard American pizza. (As opposed to California pizza, which is a whole different ball o’ dough.) Everywhere. Chains have it, one-offs have it, and even the upscale places with wood-fired pizzas have it.

(My pizza primer: Chicago-style pizza is deep-dish. Pizza Hut pizza, which, btw, is not the same in other countries, is a sort of Chicago pizza, only without the heart or the soul. NY pizza is very thin crust, etc., as previously described - sometimes also called Neapolitan pizza. CA pizza is a sort of ‘fusion’ cuisine type pizza - popularized by the California Pizza Kitchen chain, but the style is now available from other places in the area. It’s, like, Thai Chicken Pizza, or Hoisin Duck Pizza, or Tostada Pizza, or what have you. Different, with little relationship to real pizza. But good.)

And people put all manner of stuff on and in biscuits. Really, it’s hard to stop 'em, sometimes, especially in the South, where biscuits run wild and free. Though the clotted cream, or whatever you call it…mmmm. That stuff we don’t have just everywhere. Or lemon curd, which I firmly believe should make a more regular appearance in the American diet.

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And the French Fry vending machines? This is a brilliant idea.

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I WANT ONE!
I dont even know what it is or could be but any machine that dispenses french fries like soda is okay with me. Hmmm, I wonder if I could get one installed inside my home?

Nononononononono
Maybe about 5%? perhaps higher, mainly females I believe, sorry, I don’t have the exact figures, there is a fad for vegetarian/healthy food at the mo, but most people just have it once in a while, for a change, or to take a rest from all that meat.

do you consume a lot of marmalade overthere in the US?
Do you have many different varieties of it?

Orange marmalade is common in the US, but it tends to be sweeter, with less peel in it than British varieties. You can get specialty stuff like lemon and grapefruit marmalade, but usually only in “gourmet” shops.

Marmalade is reasonably available, in my experience, but not very many people eat it (at least in the southeastern US). We tend to prefer apple, plum, peach, and grape (or muscadine…mmmm) jellies or strawberry jam. Note that jams are generally understood to be a preparation similar to jelly or marmalade, but which contains the seeds of the fruit. It’s unusual to see jam made from anything but strawberries or (mainly in Louisana and Texas) peppers.

I personally dislike marmalade, but then I generally dislike any citrus food or drink except the fresh fruit or fruit juice.

I’ve had pizza with corn and tuna on a white sauce base from a local pizza place and it’s a whole lot better than it sounds, really. I love it.

Proper grits should be thick enough that the spoon stands up in the pot. Thin grits are icky and either haven’t been cooked enough or are those disgusting instant versions.

Cadbury’s chocolate is much better than Hershey’s in my opinion. But if you want really fabulous chocolate you gotta try Scharffenbergers

Forgot to add, this is a really interesting thread. I’ve learned a bunch.

Think of a thick wheat porridge…very warm and tastes very good with brown sugar and maple syrup. Kind of like a smooth version of oatmeal.

[small hijack] This was raised in another thread, but I note that not only does Nabisco no longer use lard, but Oreos are now O-U (Union of Orthodox Rabbis) Kosher (that’s the little u inside a circle symbol). Oh, and Keebler bought Sunshine Biscuits, and renamed Hydrox “Droxies.” [/small hijack]

Now, back to the real thread.

Cadbury-loving Americans: take a very close look at your Cadbury’s wrapper, and see who actually manufactures your elixer. It’s [drumroll]

Hershey’s.

I haven’t been to Britain yet so I haven’t compared with the original. I do, generally, prefer Cadbury’s Dairy Milk to Hershey’s, and I’m especially fond of both Caramello and Fruit & Nut. For semi-sweet, though, Hershey’s Special is quite good - Cook’s Illustrated recently taste-tested several brands for use in a chocolate custard pie, and the Hershey’s came second only to the uber-gourmet Callebaut, and ahead of several other (unnamed) European brands (I assume they included Suchard, Valhrona, etc.).

May I rush to the defense of Turkish Delight? Those of us from the Pacific Northwest love our Aplets and Cotlets, which indeed are equivalent - the company even sells what it calls “Old Country Locoum” in flavors like orangewater and pistachio, which are a revelation. The irony is that the founders were Armenians who’d managed to get out of Turkey during the genocide, and settled in eastern Washington.

On shakes: do your shakes come in malted varieties? This is the One True Path to Dairy Enlightenment. Y’see, you have to add a spoonful or so of malt powder to the mix, which provides a wonderful balance to the chocolate (cholocate being the only acceptable flavor of Milk Shakes.) Heaven.

Now, Mangetout, you asked about breakfast cereal, which strongly suggest that your nation is abandoning the grossest, vilest, slimiest breakfast invention: The Kipper. My uncle, a U.S. Navy officer in the early 1970s, had the great good luck of being assigned to the Atlantic Fleet (not bad during Vietnam, eh?). He served a terribly vital role as some sort of low-level liaison between the USN and Her Majesty’s Fleet, a position that required him, one fine morning, to breakfast with a high admiral. That meant rising at some ungodly hour, putting on dress uniform, and (in his words) “…being confronted not merely with fish, but…dead fish. Really dead fish. Embalmed in oil. Panfried, so that the smell stayed in my uniform for hours.” I mean, what, you’re surrounded by frigging water, so if you absolutely must have fish before noon – an unspeakably bad idea to begin with – can’t you people find any fresh? (Oh, and may I ask how the hell many weeks they let it sit on the dock before it gets to the cannery?) Or are you too hung over to manage to do more than empty a can? And in which case, won’t it just make you barf anyway?

Maybe that’s the point.

I’m vehement about it because my father briefly had an English girlfriend (actually, she wasn’t English - she was more-than-English: Colonial.). I smelled kippers in her house one morning and since I wasn’t the one dating her I made excuses to run outside. And barfed out of her line of sight.

So please, don’t make fun of anything we eat over here:D.

Now on to pizza. I’ve been living here in NYC for ten years, and I would say there are only a few places where it’s really worth it: John’s on Bleecker, Patsy’s in East Harlem, Grimaldi’s in Brooklyn. See, what makes thin-crust pizza terrific is the oven: it’s gotta be brick, to char the crust, and shaped so the smoke backs up on the pizza just a bit. And the crust has to be feather-light, which means that at John’s they don’t sell slices. By definition, really great pizza doesn’t hold up to sitting out for hours, doled out a slice at a time.

Now, what are the street foods where you live? I mean the stuff sold from carts. Here in New York, there’s almost everything, especially on Broadway near Wall Street - the ubiquitous hot dogs (roasted, never boiled, with mustard or ketchup only), Italian sausage, kebab, soft pretzels (with mustard), soup, honey roasted nuts, bagels/donuts and coffee, whole fruit (lots of Middle Eastern vendors), oh my. Used to be there was even a cart doing some sort of vegetarian Macrobiotic cooking.

Oh, and please send Curly Wurlies. There was a similar think called Marathon Bar when I was a kid, but it’s been gone for years. And somebody tell the Mars corporation to get their names straight, for some reason the products you know as “Mars” and “Milky Way” aren’t the same as the ones we know by the same damn names. (here, chocolate over chocolate nougat = Three Musketeers, chocolate over carmel and chocolate nougat = Milky Way, chocolate over carmel, chocolate nougat and almonds = Mars).

(Just ran to the fridge for some Hershey’s Special. Mmmmm.)

**Probably manufactured under licence, certainly over here it’s made by Cadburys

**Nope, but shakes aren’t really all that popular an item over here.

I’ve eaten kippers before, but never for breakfast and I’ve only ever been offered them for breakfast once, when I stayed in a very posh hotel. I don’t like 'em, but anyway, it’s just smoked fish, give me smoked mackerel instead (more ‘meaty’ and none of the millions of tiny bones that kippers have), a thick slice of granary bread, real butter, and a dollop of hot horseradish.

**Perish the thought! that’s not what we’re trying to do in this thread. :slight_smile:

**in my area at least, one of the more popular street foods (we’ll set aside fish and chips for a moment) would be a Doner kebab - thin sliced strips of frazzled spiced lamb (that’s been minced, formed into a massive cylinder and roasted on a spit), served in a warm pitta with white cabbage salad and hot chilli sauce.

**Marathon is now called ‘Snickers’ Grrr, don’t get me started on that

Yes, true hominy is delicious!

As are Cherry Ripes. I want one and haven’t seen one in ten, fifteen years. I can get Violet Crumbles at the Brito-Strine store here in town but they aren’t as good. They don’t have Buderim Ginger either. :frowning:

I can’t believe that this thread has gone three pages without someone mentioning the true quintessential American food: barbeque! Of course, barbeque means different things in different parts of the country, but the main thing is slow, (relatively) low temperature cooking of the meat. Texans commit the atrocity of smothering it with a tomato based sauce before cooking it. In North Carolina, they will cook it without sauce and use a thin, vinegar based sauce. Kansas barbeque uses a dry rub of spices and no sauce (sometimes). It all varies, but it is all American, and I never saw anything in the UK that came close (except in ersatz American restaurants…)

I can’t believe that this thread has gone three pages without someone mentioning the true quintessential American food: barbeque! Of course, barbeque means different things in different parts of the country, but the main thing is slow, (relatively) low temperature cooking of the meat. Texans commit the atrocity of smothering it with a tomato based sauce before cooking it. In North Carolina, they will cook it without sauce and use a thin, vinegar based sauce. Kansas barbeque uses a dry rub of spices and no sauce (sometimes). It all varies, but it is all American, and I never saw anything in the UK that came close (except in ersatz American restaurants…)

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Indeed they are - that’s why I’m curious if they differ much from the original.

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This is what we know by the Greek name of gyro (pronounced “yeero”), which I forgot to list. Oh, and do you have falafel there? They’re smallish balls of (I think) ground garbanzo beans, deep fried and served in pita with tahini, lettuce and tomato. Very much the starving-student meal.

Oh dear, here we go on nomenclature again (damn trade names!). What I meant was that your “Curly Wurly” used to be available here under the name “Marathon Bar,” but it disappeared completely some years ago. What you knew as a Marathon Bar we always called a Snickers, which I gather Mars has decided to turn into an “international” name. (Do you ever eat them frozen? It’s quite a standard thing in summer here, where the corner stores always have some in the freezer bin next to the Haagen Dazs. Only Snickers, never other bars.)

The term Barbecue in the UK usually refers to nothing more than cooking the meat over charcoal and eating it outdoors, sometimes this will include marinated or coated cuts of meat, but (sadly) it’s more often just sausages and burgers, bleh, oh and chicken drumsticks, seemingly these must be cooked in such a way that the outside is charred beyond recognition, but the centre is still raw and only just thawed out, mmmm, salmonella.

Anyway, marinades are probably more popular than rubs or coating, but we are becoming more adventurous.

Now that is strange, because Marathon=Snickers is a Mars product, but CurlyWurly=Marathon is Cadburys, but hey.

Frozen Snickers? Wouldn’t that just break your teeth?
I’ve never seen that over here, but we do have Snickers IceCream/Choc-ice bars, plus the same sort of thing for almost every other confectionery.

Somebody told me that you make apple pies etc in the US with ordinary dessert apples, do you have such things as cooking apples? Like Bramley’s seedling?

Well, if by “ordinary dessert apples” you mean Galas or Fujis or the vile mildness that is Golden/Red Delicious, wrong. You use tart apples - the most common variety is Granny Smith, but there are others, rarer and tarter, that I prefer. Most are also sold for eating, and I typically prefer them to the sweeter varieties, but then I also prefer eating pie cherries than bings, et al.