American Ninja Warrior

Oh thank god you posted, DKW. I know you said you were going to post later than usual, but I began to get worried that I’d have to go without you entertaining me this week!

N9IWP, I know, I have never been so shocked to see a person hit a buzzer in my life! I kept thinking to myself, “Okay, now he’s going to fall.” “All right, he got past that, I guess he’ll fail here.” Because I was sure, freaking SURE, that no one in the first half hour would hit the buzzer!!

It also makes me wonder, because the announcers were saying that getting a completion on the first run of the night was unprecedented, and I always thought that they showed the runs in a different order from how they were actually run.

Yeah, I assume they reorder them for dramatic purposes. Of course, I also assume they film city qualifiers and then city finals on two consecutive days, and then edit their commentary to make it seem otherwise.

Anyhow, no real shocks here, other than Ryan Stratis making it up the megawall. Drew Dreschel still the best. Jessie Graff still the best. JJ Woods still inconsistent as hell.

There was some other stuff I wanted to do last Tuesday. No, that’s it. Usually when I knock a recap on the same day as watching, it’s a big effort that takes up almost the entire evening. I knew that giving proper treatment to Warnky/Martin would take some effort (although not as much as I initially thought), so I figured it’d be better to go fresh. The final will almost certainly be Wednesday as well.

As for the 10th season of the regular contest: Yes, I’m aware that it’s on. The reason I haven’t said anything so far was because I don’t think this board permits posts that are nothing but long strings of angry obscenities. Good Reimu, what in blue blazes HAPPENED to quallies?? I dimly remember a time when they were a mix of one-offs having plenty of goofy fun, gutsy overachievers grinding out amazing efforts, bright-eyed dark horses who surprised everyone, and the friendly rivalries among the stars gunning for top times. It was pure. It was legitimate. It was entertaining. Now it’s all inspirational this and heartwarming that, and the sap and treacle and glurge are so dense I need freaking scuba gear. And if Matt Iseman goes any more off the deep end, he’s going to get fitted for a straitjacket. (Never in a thousand years did I think Akbar freaking Gbajabiamila would be the relatively sane one.)

I do not give one solitary rip about a single thing the show expects me to care about. Not the poor, sick children, not the stressed-out mothers, not the past failures, not the inspirational dad who travelled hundreds and hundreds of miles to watch, not all the nauseating religious fanaticism. Nothing. No interest whatsoever. And it is fricking weird to see real contenders like Daniel Gil or Drew Dreschel or Mike Bernardo awkwardly sandwiched between these movie-of-the-week schlock pieces while the producers scramble like mad to find something, anything, even remotely in the ballpark of any of the Acceptable Stories that they can run out the clock on the intro with.

And another thing! There’s too much goddam screaming! I don’t recall there being one crowd shot where they just nodded approvingly or said something like “All right!” and “Nailed it!” in an energetic but controlled voice, it’s heavy metal concert mode from start to finish. The only positive thing about it is that it momentarily prevents them from chanting like a flippin’ shrine maiden performing an exorcism. (Yes, I know I’m reaching. It’s been a reachy kind of week for me.)

Anyway, I feel obligated to put up something besides grumbling, so…

  • The Mega Wall. Looking back on my original comments about this, I have to say that…without undue chest thumping…that I more or less nailed it. Other than a handful of second-tier competitors who obviously weren’t going to make it, everyone’s given it a crack. “You only live once” and “Who needs three chances anyway” seem to be the orders of the day. Mostly I’m glad there’s a reason to not hit fast forward once someone gets past the fifth obstacle. I am rather curious as to just how long they’re going to throw that game show-esque “$10,000” on the screen every time someone gets it. The way things are progressing, there are going to be plenty of competitors getting it, and it’s only going to increase in the future. “Act like you’ve been there before” has to kick in at some point, right?

  • Of course, one of the main reasons the Mega Wall is so attractive is…well, there isn’t any penalty for failing. At all. For anyone. Never mind the fact the competitor still gets one crack at the regular dealie, even if he gets a charlie horse at the worst possible time or whatever, it still counts as five obstacles completed. Hey, betcha no one completes five obstacles and fails to make it to CFs. You will not take that bet, of course, because you are not a slobbering moron. The only way that can happen is if at least 30 competitors hit the buzzer, and given how insanely grueling prelims have become, barring the involvement of superheroes and/or angels, that’s not happening. The pattern I’m seeing so far is a decent minority of finishers, a massive logjam of 4-obstacle finishers (listed as “5th obstacle” on the ranking charts), and maybe two or three 3-obbers (“4th obstacle”). I’ll have to go back and check, but in the second week EVERYONE on the top 30 who didn’t finish went out on the 5th, and I’m pretty sure it could’ve stretched to 40 or even 50. Bottom line, if the Mega Wall is supposed to be a risk, it needs to actually be a risk. Unfortunately, any measure with teeth will be seen as draconian, and I can’t imagine the producers risking that kind of bad blood when they’ve worked so hard to make everything else happy-positive-sugary-gooey-lovey-dovey. It’s still far better than just plopping a useless 14’ 6" bit of nothing there, so I won’t complain.

  • I’m really feeling for Joe Moravsky. How’d you like to play your heart out, light the world on fire, and outdo everyone else in the last season that went completely unrewarded? Don’t get me wrong, the prize for top finisher is a great incentive, but it shouldn’t have taken anywhere near this long, and there still needs to be an actual prize structure like real leagues have.

  • One of the unfortunate consequences of quallies getting so long and difficult is that we’re seeing a vastly narrower range of competitors than in the old days. And I don’t just mean we’re seeing close to 100% sappy stories; we’re not seeing anyone who doesn’t have a chance of contending. I think the very first guy we saw in Miami made it all the way to Ring Turn. Runs just take so long, and the stories and interviews and crowd shots and hype take so long, that there just isn’t any time to showcase any of the You Can’t Take Any Obstacle For Granted and Oh My God What Happened guys. The product we’re seeing is becoming almost as homogenized as the damn Republican National Convention.

Well, that’s my take so far. Sigh. You really can’t go home again.

Were those last few paragraphs intended to be something besides grumbling? Could have fooled me! :wink:

I’m liking the Mega Wall more than I thought I would. When it was first introduced, I thought to myself that nobody would get up it except the greats, like Daniel Gil and Drew Drechsel. And since we already have a good idea who the greats are, ehh, it’s just not that exciting.

And don’t get me wrong, everyone who has gotten up it has been a solid competitor. But I really would have expected Sean Bryan to get to the top over Nick Hanson. I would have expected Drew to get it over Ryan Stratis. But what I’m seeing is an obstacle that actually wins you money – AND IT’S NOT AN UPPER BODY OBSTACLE. Which means that it gives a few more people a chance to shine. (Though of course, we can’t ignore the fact that you have to get through a bunch of upper body obstacles before you even have a shot at trying the Mega Wall.)

Well, that was a fairly eventful three hours of ninjaing last night, between ANW and NvN. What did we learn?

-Poor Flip Rodriguez can get arbitrarily close to whatever he’s trying to accomplish… but no closer. In the past few years, he has gotten within one obstacle of finishing stage 2 at least twice. He got within one dismount of getting to attempt the mega wall. And now his team made it to the finals of NvN before losing.

-Jesse “Flex” LaBreck is the real deal. I think she has pretty clearly cemented her place as best-non-Jessie-Graff woman. What can’t she do? (Get close to scaling the mega wall, apparently.)

-Jon Alexis Jr. has never seemed particularly impressive in ANW. But damn if he wasn’t the right man for the job in these finals, with multiple obstacles that directly reward height and reach

-Daniel Gill is human after all. Never thought I’d see him make so many flat-out mistakes.

-Isaac Caldiero is back! And running the course in slacks and a polo shirt for some reason. And still doing the goofiest victory hop ever seen. (And boy do they dance around acknowledging the existence of poor Geoff Britten.)

-Dear lord that 5th obstacle looked brutal… although in the end I’m not sure it was actually harder than the doorknobs from last week.

Yeah, that really stood out to me, too. I saw a news story where Britten said he intended to compete again next year. If that happens, they’ll have to rewrite him back into the official history.

This is the end, my friends…and…it’s time to…uh…bend. Expectations. Or something.

NINJA VS. NINJA 1 - FINAL DAY
3rd obstacle: Wing Nuts. A trampoline jump to the first, a lateral swing to the second, and a second swing to a bar. The bar is on a hinge and will swing back and forth, and both competitors have to use it. (I guess after dubbing Kevin Carbone “Da Designa” and trumpeting this about 25,000 times by now, they need to put some version of Wing Nuts in everything. Y’know, so we know that there’s a reason for this and it isn’t the meaningless hyperbolic bluster we thought it was. :rolleyes:)
5th obstacle: Criss Cross Ring Toss - The first and third sections are now angled outward, so there’s no risk of a collision there; otherwise, it’s the same as it was in prelims.

Final thoughts on the four hopefuls.

Labreckfast Club (12-3) - Chris Digangi (3-1), Jesse “Clubhouse” Labreck (4-0), Jon Alexis Jr. (3-1)
Beat: Team Tarzan 3, Dark Horse 3, Frostbite 4, Team Wolfpack 5
The story: Just how good this squad has become. I’ll admit, I was fully expecting another collapse from Alexis. Big expectations and big distractions (i.e. college) are just a lethal combination, and then tack on the memories of how he singlehandedly torpedoed his team one year ago. But he’s not only sprung back, he’s actually figured out how to use his size, and his opponents have definitely felt it. Then there’s Clubhouse, the revelation. Formerly one of a number of pretty-good ladies who weren’t going to make much of mark, she’s evolved into an absolute terror, grinding Tammy McClure to dust one night and making the statement of the year against Adam Rayl another. And Digangi has gone with the flow and become a true force, combining strength and guts to become a foe no one wants to face. With their best competition out, it might take an actual giantkiller to keep them from reaching the top.

Party Time (12-3) - Brian Arnold (3-1), Barclay Stockett (4-0), Jake Murray (3-1)
Beat: Brazi Bros 4, All-American Ninjas 3, Hashtag Ninjas 3, Tri-Hards 5
The story: Having it where it goddam counts. I’ll say it right now: I’m sick of all the blather about “crazy” this and “YouTube sensation” that. I’m sick of all the dancing and swaggering and strutting to the buzzer and goofball stunts. I’m sick of all the ear-bleeding SCREAMING. And I’m sick of all the shots of toned glutes in tight hot pants and pouty-lipsticked faces, as if I don’t have five thousand far better pics on my hard drive right now. To see a team quietly go about its business, have solid fundamentals, and win without any of that crap is an incredible breath of fresh air, not to mention a massive rebuke against the insufferable glurge-a-rama the regular contest has become. (And really, does anyone really want Brian Arnold to start wearing lipstick? :D)

Team Ronin (12-5) - J.J. Woods (1-3), Meagan Martin (4-0), Flip “David” Rodriguez (2-2)
Beat: West Coast Warriors 3, Hashtag Ninjas 5, The Ballers 5, Lab Rats 4
The story: The team that just won’t lose. Woods has been lackluster and Rodriguez has been unimpressive; by rights they should’ve been bounced in the knockout stage at best. And here they are. Part of it has been the unstoppable force that’s Meagan Martin, who’s always been one of the best and has been throwing her weight around here like no woman ever has before. But there’s something subtler, more intangible at play, something about the cohesion and spirit this squad has that makes the whole far, far more than the sum of its parts. This is the kind of team that laughs in the face of conventional wisdom, makes utter fools of all the experts, and overachieves like an anti-Bart Simpson. Like suffering? Bet against them. Even better, think that they can’t keep it up and the NEXT team is going to take them down. Go on, keep bucking them, they can’t keep it up forever. C’mon, tough guy, I dare ya. :wink:

Iron Grip (12-5) - Mathis Owhadi (2-2), Tiana Webberley (1-3), Daniel Gil (4-0)
Beat: The InvincAbels 4, The Lizard Kings 5, Beasts from the East 4, Golden Hearts 4
The story: The ringless superstar with his first real shot at glory. We’ve seen this story a hundred times, one of the greatest athletes of his generation denied the top prize again and again because the supporting cast couldn’t keep up. Now Gil finally has some capable support, and while they’ve faltered at times, they always pull it together in the relays. The big, big question is Owhadi. Tweb is going to be severely outclassed by everyone she faces tonight, so it’s up to “The Kid” to come out charging and beat his men.

= Semifinal match 1: Labreckfast Club vs. Party Time =
(Is Eyes color-blind now? Seriously, I’m starting to worry about the sheer number of things he misses.)
__L: Digangi vs. Murray - Murray has slightly quicker feet and is the first to take on the special-ordered 3rd obstacle. They both take their time with this, making sure they’re on target with their swings, and Murray is still a bit ahead. And…that’s all he’d need, as Digangi comes up short on the bar, and down he goes. Murray/distance 0-1
__W: Labreck vs. Stockett - Stockett is faster through two. On to the wing nuts…and Clubhouse needs an extra swing…but then Stockett can’t seem to get off the second…but then she finally commits and is quickly off the bar. On to the tiles…clean as a whistle. Clubhouse is playing catch-up, her perfect record in serious…Stockett gets hung up on the rings! She just can’t seem to figure them out, and you give Clubhouse this kind of opening, she’s hitting it with an F1 car. She looks relaxed as she hand-over-hands her way to the 9th (that’d be the first peg on the final section), dismounts, and strolls up the wall. Labreck/finish 1-1
__A: Alexis Jr. vs. Arnold - Dammit, Eyes…if you MUST be all giant, giant, giant in every freaking event Alexis is in, could you at least be bothered to read one giant story in the goddam world other than Jack and the Beanstalk? Just one?? Haaahhh. And of course, Bodge does his part to contribute to the idiocy quota by noting how Alexis needs to avoid the water on Sonic Swing after he’s already past Sonic Swing. Bravo, that’s real teamwork. :smack: They’re on the first nut at the same time, and…ooh, yeah, that’s how being big helps you! Alex just casually reaches to the second nut and has it, and from there it’s an easy hop to the bar. Arnold needs to answer and does, getting on the bar while Alexis is still on it. It’s all square again going to the tiles, but Alexis steps ahead and is on first, and he’s the first on the rings, and…man, those are some big swings! And he’s only made it to the 7th before he goes for the dismount…and he makes it! Now THAT’S what I’m talking about! :smiley: Alexis Jr./finish 2-1
__R1: Labreck/Digangi/Alexis Jr. vs. Stockett/Murray/Arnold - Stockett is “Sparkly Ninja” now? Had no idea these nicknames had shot past “grating” and gone all the way to “word salad”. :rolleyes: At the start, Bodge goes “One two three boomboomboomboomboom”, which I guess is his term for “nothing interesting happens and both make the tag at the same freaking time”, and if that’s the case, hey, bullseye. Digangi doesn’t repeat his mistake, and both second leggers are on the bar and off the bar. Will there…no, Digangi stays within striking distance but doesn’t risk a collision, and Arnold starts the rings with a slight lead. And then Alexis picks up right where he left off. He has to go a peg further this time, but he still tears by Arnold and gets up and to the buzzer unopposed. His victory is so crushing that it almost makes me forget that Bodge once again thinks it’s possible to use “all 78 inches” on a pure upper-body obstacle. I don’t know how much recycled idiocy I can take, dammit. :mad: Labreckfast Club/finish 3-1
LABRECKFAST CLUB WINS

A rare instance of raw physical ability being the difference-maker. Both teams were hot, focused, and seasoned going in, but once Alexis started flexing his muscles, Party Time’s ambitions were over.

= Semifinal match 2: Team Ronin vs. Iron Grip =
__L: Woods vs. Owhadi - Woods has the lead going into Wing Nuts. Owhadi reaches for the second and makes it, while Woods makes a hard leap to the second…and Owhadi is on the bar and one-times the dismount! He follows up with a flawless midhop, and this one’s all but in the bag. And it goes completely in after Woods gets to the rings…and heads to the wrong side. Y’know, the side Owhadi already took the rings on. Dang, Woods’ team forays have taken a…Connealyan turn. Owhadi/finish 0-1
__W: Martin vs. Webberley - And a slipup by Bodge. I know, shocker, right? “Meagan Martin needs to win here or Team Ronin is [suddenly realizes they’re only down 0-1 and can’t lose the match here] in troub-le, trouble.” :rolleyes: This one’s decided quickly as both of them take wide swings on the second nut, Martin gets on and off the bar first, and Tweb…can’t seem to find her motivation. This was especially bad since Martin barely budged the bar. Tweb actually catches up a bit on the rings, but Martin easily dismounts from the 8th, and that’s number 11, folks. Martin/finish 1-1
__A: Rodriguez vs. Gil - David sprints like he’s fleeing Goliath (c’mon, I had to put a “Goliath” in there sometime :)) and has a slight lead on Gil going to the first nut. He reaches out to the second and makes the transition. Naturally, Gil tries to answer, and since this…he misses! But of course, on the second try…he can’t make the transition! Caught in no man’s land, he can do nothing to prevent David from opening up a big lead, and a textbook 8th dismount seals it. When the gold is on the line, no one’s immune to pressure. (Um, that wasn’t a small mistake, Bodge.) Rodriguez/finish 2-1
__R1: Martin/Rodriguez/Woods vs. Webberley/Owhadi/Gil - No surprise on the first leg. No surprise on the second leg, either…regrettably, as David’s hands slip right off the bar and he dunks. He’s been known to throw in clunkers like these when the pressure’s on, and this one just cost him big time. Gil has his second 5-second advantage in three nights, and of course Eyes has to pound that horse race narrative drum, which at this point is a dead

HOLY CRAP, DID HE JUST GIVE UP THE LEAD TO WOODS ON THE RINGS?? Yes! Woods, another competitor who’s kind of notorious for his inconsistency, got past Gil! And he’s the first to the wall! Gil charges like $10,000 is on the line, and he’s just a split second behind at the top…the final lunge…and…point to Gil. Close, but he was clearly first; no need for replay.
Iron Grip/finish 2-2

Wow. Consider now just how huge Gil’s flub on Wing Nuts in the anchor heat was. Had he beaten Owhadi, he would’ve just punched his team’s ticket with a spectacular down-to-the-wire finish, and Iron Grip would be riding a huge wave of momentum going into the final. Instead, Team Ronin, with the insurance heat, gets to settle down, calmly work out what went wrong, and come back roaring. Oh boy. Have a feeling history’s going to repeat itself. One way or another.

__R2: Martin/Rodriguez/Woods vs. Webberley/Owhadi/Gil - Sure, why not. Bodge still holds out faith that something interesting will happen in the first leg, which doesn’t happen, of course. David is on the second nut…and it’s a much different story this time as he hops right to the bar and one-times to the pad, picture-perfect. Meanwhile Owhadi is struggling, unable to pick the right time to get to the moving bar. David has already made the tag by the time Owhadi reaches the tiles, and he can’t make the magic happen twice, as he overshoots the second solo and does a spectacular somersault into the water. That’s it, the nail in the coffin, the coup de grace, the destroyer of hope. Team Ronin/finish 3-2
TEAM RONIN WINS

Sanae, Kanako and Suwako, Team Ronin freaking did it AGAIN. Bad matchups, big mistakes, a thousand pounds of pressure every damn heat, and they just win and win and win. They remind me of the Scott Pilgrim books, or the Las Vegas Golden Knights in their inaugural season, just a complete mismatch on paper every damn time, and you keep thinking that the next opponent is going to do them in, or the next, or the next, or the next, and every single one falls. As impressive a run as anything I’ve ever seen in any sport. They should get an award just for making it this far. (And if ANW had the good sense to have more than one damn trophy, they would, but that’s an issue for another time.)

Oh, hey, and they’re up against Labreckfast Club, and you know what that means! (And if you don’t, you should! :))

=== Championship match: Labreckfast Club vs. Team Ronin ===
__L: Digangi vs. Woods - Woods has a small lead through…

** SPLOOOOSHH **

Yukari almighty, this is just getting surreal. Digangi, who’s probably done net-based obstacles several hundred times by now, loses the handle on the Tick Tock net and tumbles backward to doom. How many breaks can team Ronin get in one universe?? Woods/distance 0-1

__W: Labreck vs. Martin - All right, this is it. 9-0 destroyer vs. 11-0 megastar. Clubhouse has already bested Michelle Warnky; if she can topple another titan, that cements her status as the most fearsome, most terrifying, most dominating woman in NVN there is. If Martin wins, she soars ahead of both Clubhouse and Warnky and all but ices the trophy for her team. Sounds fun. Let’s do this.

(Fun fact: If you combine a “Meagan” chant with a “Jesse” chant, it sounds like “crazy”, which is an apt description of what the level of emotion for this heat is like.)

Deadlocked after 1. Clubhouse is a bit faster off the net and gets on the nuts first. Both need one swing for the transition. Clubhouse swings once, doesn’t pull the trigger, swings again, commits, and is on. Martin…doesn’t make the jump. A bit overcautious, perhaps? The bar is making big swings, and she still can’t find her moment. Clubhouse is starting to pull away, but it’s nine obstacles, so…

** SPLOOOOSHH **

Oh. Oh. Oh. :eek: That is bad. Martin makes her jump while the bar is moving away from her, and she comes up short and lands right in the water. A terrible decision, plain and simple. And just like that, after all the thrilling women’s battles we’ve had in recent weeks, the last one of this competition gets right back to basics. :frowning: It’s situations like this that the term “ignominious” was made for. Labreck/distance 1-1

My DVR shows 58 minutes as they come back from the last commercial break. It was about 4 minutes at the start, so barring another early exit, it doesn’t look like we have time for three more runs. That means that the anchor heat is potentially huge. We could be seeing a best of one here, folks.

__A: Alexis Jr. vs. Rodriguez - Nearly even after two. In a bit of a surprise, David has excellent control while Alexis is unable to repeat the easy-reach traverse he did against Arnold, and David takes the lead. Alexis catches up going to the rings, and they’re virtually even up to the 8th. Ooh, that was a nice bump. Alexis makes an awkward angled jump from the 8th, and…no sweat, he’s safe. He’s first to the ladder, and needs just three hops to clear it. Eyes points out that David’s never had to do this much work before. Alexis still ahead at the start of the 57’ of destiny, Zig Zag Climb. This is the one obstacle his size works against him because it’s hard to really lock in with his limbs at that angle. Can he finally overcome his doubts and prevail? He’s up. David dismounts. It’s not a big lead. David is surging. It’s going to be close. And…Alexis…hits the buzzer first! Alexis Jr./distance 2-1

Wow. Always a sobering reminder of how a second here or there can make all the difference in the world. Had David won, Team Ronin would’ve been in essentially the same position they were in against Iron Grip and at the very least would’ve given Labreckfast Club a hell of a fight. As it is, this is the third time they’ve been in a 2-1 hole, and against their strongest opponent yet. You could see the writing on the wall with Alexis’ win, and it looks like all that’s left is to put a signature on it.

__R1:Alexis Jr./Digangi/Labreck vs. Rodriguez/Woods/Martin - :confused:

Uhhh… :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Okay…I get that Labreck has a ton of confidence and would like nothing more than to take this home. And…that’s the only thing I get about this. The second leg seems like the natural place for Martin, as she’s neither a blazing sprinter nor an upper-body crusher (albeit still better in either department than about 95% of the women), and Rodriguez just showed what he was capable of in the stretch run, while the relatively weak Woods would be best placed in front. Alexis has been an absolute beast in the middle section, and Digangi, who looks a bit off tonight, would be best starting off. Yes, yes, I know he went down on Tick Tock, but that was a fluke! He’s not Cassie Craig, dammit! All he needs to do is stay upright and not give up too much ground to Woods! I can only guess that this is the “give the women a chance” thing this contest apparently needs one of every year, and I can accept that, but the goddam title match is just about the most inappropriate place to get all cute like this. Ah well.

David has a slight lead after two but trips up in front of the trampoline; they’re on the bar at the same time, and Alexis makes a very pretty one-timer while David doesn’t. Digangi, wanting some redemption for his earlier mistake, steps calmly through the tiles and begins the rings. Woods quickly catches up…and Digangi is missing pegs! He tries to do two at a time and whiffs, then whiffs again! He finally comes to his senses and takes them the “wimpy” way, but Woods is already off the rings and off to the races. Digangi takes waaaaay too long to dismount and get up the wall. It’s really been an off night for him, downright shocking considering how good he was in his previous two matches. Clubhouse has been stone cold tonight, but now she’s has a big deficit against one of her strongest rivals. Martin is already on the 4th rung by the time Clubhouse begins. She gets to work…

…aw, geez. Remember how I mentioned earlier that Martin is neither a blazing sprinter nor an upper-body crusher? That second thing has really jumped up to bite her, as Clubhouse easily catches up on the ladder. And pulls ahead on the first die. And keeps pulling ahead. Eyes pitifully gives the rotting carcass of the horse race narrative one last sad little slap as Clubhouse kicks it into overdrive and leaves Martin breathing fumes. Labreckfast Club/finish 3-1

LABRECKFAST CLUB WINS

Matchup of the day: Oh, so many to choose from. :slight_smile: But I always look at the big picture, and so I’m going with Arnold/Alexis Jr. This was Alexis’ rite of passage. He’d gotten some nice wins, but he’d never beaten anyone the caliber of Arnold, a true legend of the game who had the consistency of a clock and the nerves of a Masters champion. He simply does not make stupid blunders or leave big openings. There is exactly one way to beat him: outperform him. And Alexis did. And did again from a disadvantage. Once everyone saw him close out Party Time, we knew that he was through being a stumbling, choking sad sack and was here to win. And he did, and he did.
MVP: Alexis Jr. Besting Arnold was impressive enough, but he wasn’t hoisting the trophy unless he could find a way to hold off a surging David. On his worst obstacle. It seemed a hopeless task, but champions find a way, and he made sure that, one way or another, it would be his buzzer that got pressed first. The relay was really just a formality after that.

Overall MVP: Jon Alexis Jr. I mean, what more can I say about him at this point? Worst to first. Despair to victory. The “giant” who finally got rid of the quotation marks. The single most dramatic improvement I’ve ever seen from any TNW/NVN competitor. From his very first match, this honor was his to lose, and he made sure that would never happen.

This had a little of everything: Elation and misery, accomplishment and failure, satisfaction and disappointment, tedium and surprise, overachievement and underachievement, incredible individual efforts, inexplicable falls, inspired calls, headscratchers, heroes, albatrosses, weirdness, and in the end a final that crowned the right team but left you wanting just a little more. That’s just par for the course for the thoroughly unpredictable exercise that is ANW’s team event.

I can’t help but think that Eyes and Bodge are going to find some way to ruin it. But until then, it’s going to be a hell of a party. :smiley:

Final thoughts and some stats later if I’m up to it.

What I like about NVN in comparison to ANW is how you get a much better idea of each competitor’s actual skill level, since you see multiple runs and one careless mistake doesn’t end their whole season. Based on NVN, a few people I’ll be watching out for on ANW:

  1. Kyle Soderman - Other than Najee Richardson and Daniel Gil, this guy was the strongest competitor out there. And considering that Najee and Daniel have both made it to Stage 3, I bet Kyle could, too. From what I understand of obstacle testing, you can test obstacles and then compete, as long as it’s in a different season (because they said Quest O’Neill used to be an obstacle tester). So if Kyle makes the jump from tester to competitor, I think he’ll instantly be a top contender.

  2. Drew Knapp - First of all, just the fact that this guy seamlessly and repeatedly made it through an obstacle that was tripping people up all night is impressive. But when you consider that the competitors he beat were Jamie Rahn and Sean Bryan, that’s really impressive. I expect to see great things out of Drew Knapp this season.

  3. Meiling Huang - Unfortunately I never got an opportunity to see her endurance this season, but I did get to see her keep pace pretty cleanly with some of the top women in this sport. She’s one to watch.

  4. Jerry D’Aurelio - Out of all the women that have not yet made it up the warped wall, I think she’s the strongest competitor.

What I didn’t like about NVN: You could tell from the very first episode that with this format, whichever team had the strongest woman would be the one to advance. I feel like the male match-ups were fairly evenly matched – at the very least, all the men seemed able to complete each obstacle, and comfortable enough with them to build up a little speed. But the women could be split into three categories: (1) Women who aren’t skilled enough to complete the course, no matter how much time they take; (2) Women who can complete the course, but need to go slowly; and (3) Women who are talented enough that they can actually build up speed going through the obstacles. When you have one fast woman going up against a woman who doesn’t have enough skill to go fast, you can hardly even call it a race.

Therefore, any team with a category-3 woman was guaranteed at least one win, which meant they would go into relay. And if this was a relay on the extended course, then the team with the category-3 woman had a significant advantage in the relay, as well. The fact that Labreckfast Club won was pretty much a foregone conclusion. I think Labreck could have teamed up with almost any two men competing and won the title.

In the process of recompiling my records files. I haven’t found that I have any really big takeaways from NVN1, so I’ll just reply to The wind of my soul.

I’m not sure that the team format is a good test of relative skill levels, mainly because the skills required are so much different from the regular contest. NVN is about speed, calmness under fire, and (to a lesser extent) endurance. The regular contest is a nightmare war of attrition where if you don’t have the arms of a gorilla you don’t stand a chance; speed only plays a very small part in Stage 1. It is nice to see competitors get second chances and make them count, although there’s less of that with the new single-elimination format. I still think the old system would’ve worked fine if in incorporated points and made a win in the first half count the same as a win in the second.

Soderman was a powerhouse and next year may actually surpass Gil, but he needs to find better teammates if he wants to be anything more than a first round also-ran. Knapp may be a future contender, but I don’t think we should read too much into one obstacle. The 9th prelim was just weird, man. Huang’s looked clumsy at times, and she needs actually BEAT someone the caliber of Michelle Warnky or Meagan Martin before she can take her place at her top. I think she’s a pretty good 2nd-tier scrapper, and I’m fine with that. D’Aurelio isn’t on my radar right now.

As for the strongest women advancing, I think this misses the greater point that in the new format, everyone needs to be a contributor if the team’s going to have any realistic chance, and you can thank two things for that: Anchor runs no longer being worth double and relays replacing the all-or-nothing tiebreaker. Remember, the teams could pick whoever they wanted for the tiebreaker, which both minimized the impact of the women and made a dominant anchor even more devastating. In TNW2, Josh Levin and Allyssa Beird went 2-2 and 1-3 respectively and were carried by a superhuman Joe Moravsky; absolutely no way that could’ve happened in NVN1. And I find the idea that Clubhouse could’ve taken the trophy with any two men is laughable (and pretty insulting to Alexis Jr. after all the improvement he made); Ben Melick or Brent Steffensen or Lance Pekus would’ve sunk her just as easily as Cassie Craig sunk Phoenix Force. For that matter, if the women were so important, why were they relegated to the easiest and most meaningless leg of nearly every relay? I know the temptation to be the first person to figure out the Winning Formula is strong, but it’s important to keep things in perspective here. The woman still won’t save the day for you; it’s just that you now need someone who won’t ruin it for you.

Still no big surprises in the ongoing contest, so I’ll unleash my (highly unremarkable) findings once quallies are over.

That’s it for quallies; as promised, my quickie stat recap. Of the 180 qualifiers, there were 70 finishers (38.89%), of which 6 made it up Mega Wall. 98 (54.44%) completed 4 obstacles. This isn’t surprising as the 5ths were upper-body grinders, all coming after a somewhat less grueling upper-body test. 10 (5.56%) made it after clearing a mere 3 obstacles, just half the course; 4 in Dallas and 6 in Minneapolis. And just a precious, special 2 (1.11%) cleared 5; both came up short on both Walls.

Looking at these numbers, all I got to say is…damn, have things changed or what? There was a time when not only finishing, but almost finishing meant something. There was no way of telling how good the field was or how easy the course was. One quallie might have 12 finishers, another might have 35. 3 obstacles at a reasonable pace might be worth 25th place one day and 75th another. Every obstacle was potentially meaningful and there was real incentive to go the distance. Now? It’s gotten so painfully difficult that it’s become essentially a 4-obstacle race, with only the tantalizing Mega Wall saving the buzzer from complete irrelevance. For every city.

I do find it morbidly funny to see the lengths of comical desperation the producers will reach to find Acceptable Stories for the established stars who, for reasons I’ve already mentioned numerous times, don’t have lots of treacle and glurge and sop in their lives. How overjoyed they must have been when Meagan Martin became tangentially related to a special-needs child. “YES! WE CAN STOP ENDLESSLY REPEATING THAT ‘SURPRISINGLY GIRLY’ AND ‘TRAVELS A LOT’ DRIVEL! FREAKING FINALLY!”

YES. A friend of mine told me last year about how she sent a submission video to ANW, received a phone call asking for further info, and ultimately wasn’t selected because she didn’t have a compelling enough story. She said she was considering talking about her mother’s battles with alcoholism if her mother was okay with talking about it on a national platform. Which disgusts me in two ways: (1) It’s hard to take a sport seriously when you’re not selected according to your physical abilities. (I mean, to some extent you are. But still, can you imagine a football player not being selected for an NFL team because his life was too ordinary?) (2) It feels rather exploitative.

I wonder if people vying for walk on spots get irritated when people are let though because they have an interesting story. I doubt anyone thought the woman with the joint disease had any chance nor the dad whose daughter did the Ninja video. I get that the show runners are trying to “humanize” the competitors but I personally would rather see how they train, what they emphasize, how they work training around a real life, not the disease of the week.

Did last year have an all star skills challenge episode? IMDB lists one, but doesn’t list USA vs the world, which exists, which makes me think it’s mislabelled and there was no skills competition.

It aired a few weeks before the season began. It’s called the “all star special” or something like that, and has a skills competition as well as a fairly pointless segment in which Akbar, Matt and whats-her-face (Christine?) each pick a 3-ninja team to compete for them on Mt. Midoriyama.

The show (specifically, last season, as the eligibility range is 6/1/2017 to 5/31/2018) got three Emmy nominations:
Reality-Competion Program
Reality Show Directing
Structured/Competition (i.e. pretty much anything other than, “Just point the camera at the stars and record what happens”) Reality Show Picture Editing

The wind of my soul - Sorry to hear about that. The only explanation I can think of is that alcoholism is an icky subject (and it is), being frequently associated with crime and self-destructive behavior. “I overcame this terrible condition that completely wasn’t my fault” is fine, “I overcame an injury/accident that could’ve happened to anyone” is fine, “I was an awful person by choice and worked hard to correct that” is a no-no. (Which I find weird…who doesn’t love a good redemption story?)

And of course, one of the unfortunate consequences of having such a limited range of Acceptable Stories is that we’ve heard the same stories so many times by now that they’ve all become old hat. Which only makes it all the more ludicrous when NBC invariably tries to keep pitching them as inspirational or surprising or remarkable. “This computer geek trains like an All-Star! Isn’t that amazing?” Well, maybe the first twenty of them or so, but then we kinda got used to it, a’ight? Never more egregious than with the woman with alapecia, where Eyes had the thankless task of freaking pretending that Kevin Bull and all his work for alapecia awareness never existed.

It does raise a fairly interesting issue of how NBC finds its real contestants. Glurge is fun and all, but at some point they’re going to need 90 people for Stage 1, and they definitely don’t want the contest to end there. Thousands of hopefuls are waiting for a crack, time is limited, and there’s no telling who’ll have a breakout and who’ll splash down early. How do you find the next Brent Steffensen or Joe Moravsky or Brian Arnold?

That’s why I think the whole event would be far better served with a round, prior to prelims, devoted solely to gooey stories. Put them on a smaller course with no water and relaxed rules (three failures permitted before they have to stop, for example). At the end, the top 100 or whichever automatically make it to the quallies, but with the stipulation that they don’t get any more airtime until they pull off something spectacular or make it to Stage 1 (both of which would be just about unheard of). Then prelims could be about what it should be about, contenders. NBC is trying to have its cake and eat it with this awkward glurgy/serious hybrid which only serves to leave legitimate hopefuls out in the cold and hurt the quality of the product.

What happened last night? How can a course get only 10 qualifier completions, and then 9 finals completions???

I was impressed with the gymnast, even though she came in second amoung the women.
@The wind of my soul – Not sure, but at least two folks who did not complete the doornob drop last time got through it this time. (answer: people got better)

Brian

I had a mixture of eager anticipation, wide-eyed curiosity, and creeping dread as to how siffies (Er, that’s my term for City Finals now. Not trying to be cute, just…concise. :)) would turn out this year. As it turns out, I actually have a fair amount to unpack. First off, let’s get the get-it-off-my-chest emoticon-heavy grumbling out of the way:

Joe Mardovich - Wait, who did he lose on 9-11? I’m so sorry, my memory’s not what it used to be; maybe if you repeated it another 8,000 times I’ll remember. :rolleyes: Also, what was 9-11 again? I mean, I know I lived through the whole thing and had it drummed into my skull pretty much nonstop for like five years, but I just can’t put my finger on it. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Good gravy, if you’re so cowardly of admitting any part of the royal clusterfrag our response to 9-11 was to the point where you can only say “tragedy, tragedy, tragedy” like a goddam parrot, why bring it up at all?? Did CNN pay you to do this? :mad: And dragging the niece into this was scummy. When she grow up, she can decide whether she wants to be a mindless nationalistic unthinking droning simpleton I need to stop now. :mad::mad:
Jesse Orenshein - He’s single? Oh, cool, so am I. We can catch a hockey game together sometime. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Maybe wait until confirming, at the absolute minimum, that he’s heterosexual and monogamous before yammering about his marriage prospects, Eyes?
Verdale Benson - Yes, NBC, continue banging the drumbeat of glorious military service when every single goddam operation we’ve been in since Desert Storm has wrecked our international standing and/or gotten our troops slaughtered for nothing. :smack: Oh, a baby, haven’t had that rammed down my throat for at least fifteen minutes! :smack::mad::smack:

(Special mention to Anna Shumaker. I’ll just quote her directly: “People tend to underestimate me. They see the blond hair, blue eyes, and they have no idea what I’m actually capable of doing.” A star female gymnast having blond hair and blue eyes is surprising? Simone Biles isn’t that famous!)

Okay, enough of that. Now then…siffies has always occupied this weird no-man’s-land between the ocean of syrup of quallies and the intense competition of the real contest. You get remnants of the former and glimpses of the latter, with the rest being filled in by whatever NBC can scrape up. It can vary quite a bit.

This week we got something we haven’t had in a long time…the bubble. Oh BABY, how I missed it. :slight_smile: And it was a hell of a ride too, seeing Grant McCartney clear 8 obstacles…which would’ve been a stone cold lock last year, or any year before that, for that matter…and watch his aspirations slowly circle the drain. Can you even imagine what must have been going through his mind to see Adam Rayl almost lose the handle on Giant Cubes, recover, and go on to finish the course? And then finally, after slipping from 12th to 15th in what seemed like seconds, to see Sean Bryan, the freaking Papal Charles Atlas, manhandle the course like it’s a Pharisee?

So now McCartney has made history in the worst possible way, the first ever competitor to not make to Stage 1 after clearing 8 obstacles. No doubt he’ll catch a ton of flack for “taking too much time” between obstacles and calls for him to stop dancing forever. If this actually cause him to never do his stupid dances on the course again (and, in turn, cause Bodge to never go “DANCE, YOUNG MAN, DANCE, DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE!!” again), that’s definitely a big plus, but I think it misses the greater issue. Some guys just aren’t speedsters, or hulking powerhouses, or incredibly nimble acrobats. Every sport has also-rans, and given how high the level of competition is nowadays, even someone who was dominant last year can be left in the cold today. Heck, look at Kacy Catanzaro, who fell so hard after '14 that she left for the WWE, for crying out loud. McCartney doesn’t have to improve anything, and it’s highly questionable as to whether he even can.

And speaking of which…damn, was the field loaded or what? Remember when it was just David Campbell, or Joe Moravsky, or Travis Rosen, or Drew Dreschel? I’m looking at the results again and I’m seeing at least nine big names and a potential breakout in Brian Rambo. When Flip “David” Rodriguez is hovering around the middle, you know there’s a high bar. This could be an anomaly…Los Angeles had two Mega Wall finishers, and it could’ve been more if Doorknob Drop didn’t have such a high attrition rate…but I’m definitely looking forward to much more success than last year.

Which brings me to my next point. :smiley: Anyone else notice that not only was the front six noticably easier than in quallies, #8-#10 were way toned down from 2017’s #8-#10? I didn’t see anyone have the slightest problem with Archer Steps, Flying Shelf Grab was much simpler (and fairer) than Sky Hooks, and Doorknob Drop got seriously defanged by making the drops far gentler. Giant Cubes and Baton Pass did require some skill, but they’re not in the same league as monstrosities like Roulette Cylinder, The Wedge, or Step Slider. Spider Trap seems to have been a compromise between the relatively easy Spider Climb and the Sisyphean torment of Invisible Ladder. I’m sure we’re going to see some failures here, but nothing close to the giant stop sign Invisible Ladder was. After the constant arms race of harder, harder, harder that began in ‘15, you can see a much different attitude from the course designers, who now see the benefit of going in the other direction. See, here’s the thing: They don’t like it when almost no one gets to the latter obstacles, and they really don’t like it when no one finishes, or even when only one competitor finishes. Hey, look, we made this cool new task to promote the Ninjago movie! Let’s see what the one flippin’ guy who makes it that far thinks of it! Zero finishers was a screaming red flag; it told them that they went too far. Worse, since the top 15 make it no matter what, it’s also pointless. Making finishing meaningless, cheapening the course, and for what, so you can point and laugh a little harder when they go down in Stage 1? Now, with a fairer, more balanced course that isn’t an upperbodypalooza, getting far matters again, we get to see the best of the best on the later tasks, and strength and skill are rewarded with victory. It’s no longer eight-and-you’re-great. You have to treat every obstacle as if it could be your last, just like in the old days.

Add it all up and…yeah, I’m liking this version of siffies. :smiley: May need some fine-tuning in the future, but at least the contest has taken several big steps in the right direction. And if it reaches the point where you have to finish the course to advance, fine by me. Hey, it’s Sasuke, it’s supposed to be merciless. :wink:

Little sidebar: Anyone notice that no one’s sporting those patches anymore? Guess NBC finally realized that a 5th or 6th season patch isn’t in the same galaxy as what came after. I’d be downright embarrassed to have a “5” anywhere on my person.

Okay good, I was wondering if I was remembering it wrong. I noticed that the drop on the fifth obstacle was a lot better, but then Eyes (oh good lord I’m using your nicknames now!) said something about how some competitor had learned to control the drop, and I started wondering if my memory was playing tricks on me.

I agree with what you said, about how it’s more fun to watch people compete on a course that actually has a handful of finishers. I mean, it’s also fun to see people compete on courses that are so hard that they’re right on the border of impossible, but not for city finals.

But I don’t like how city qualifiers and city finals had almost the same number of finishers. Maybe I’ll retract this when I see more city finals, but right now it seems like they were trying to make city qualifiers just as difficult as city finals. Ideally, I want to see something like 18 people complete qualifiers and 6 complete finals. So in other words, I’d like for finals courses to be a bit easier than they were in the past, but I’d still like to see a clear progression in the level of difficulty from qualifiers to finals. When you have someone hit his first buzzer of his ninja career in a city finals course, that’s kind of weird.