an electrical question

I have kind of a weird (and possibly stupid) question about electrical cords, the answer to which is for a novel I’ve writing, and I thought the teeming millions might be able to help me out…

Basically, my character wants to make an makeshift device that can deliver electrical current, to be used in torturing someone (applying it to metal that is touching their body, to electrocute them.) My question is – if she were to take, say, a lamp, cut off the cord and strip off the coating a little at the severed end, and then just plug in the severed cord to the wall, would current flow through the cord and shock someone? Or is the flow of electricity initiated by flipping the switch on the device (in this case, the now-cordless lamp) and, therefore, electricity wouldn’t be available to the cord?

I realize this might sound really dumb to someone who knows about this stuff, but I don’t want to get it wrong in the book. If the cord wouldn’t work in this way, what would be another good way to make a homemade, cheap shocking device?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give!

I know the answer to this one but I prefer not to give advice concerning making a weapon/ torture device/ assasination tool even if it is for a fictional setting. You might consider asking the mods to remove this.

Those of us who work with electricity tend to call an electric cord with the ends stripped bare a “suicide cord” because they are quite dangerous.

I’m going to gloss over a lot of the details here, but basically electricity flows in a big circle. That’s why they call it a circuit. It comes out of the generator at the power plant, goes through all the wires, out one wire of your lamp cord, and then you need to put something that is electrically conductive in between the two wires, so that then it can flow back through the other wire, back through all of the wires in the power system, and back to the generator where it started and complete the circuit. All the switch in your lamp does is disconnect the wire when it’s off, which breaks the circuit.

You can’t just touch metal on someone either. Whatever you want current to flow through has to be connected between the two wires. How much current flows depends on how much whatever you stick in between the two wires resists the flow of electricity. If you just touch the two wires together, there’s nothing to resist the flow of electricity and it will try and draw an infinite amount of current from the wall. This of course is WAY more than your wall can supply, and all you’ll end up doing is tripping the breaker and the power to that circuit goes dead. You’ll get a nice spark and a loud pop where the wires touched too.

Electricity is quite painful, and quite damaging to tissues at higher current levels. If you take two ends of a suicide cord and attach them to either end of a hot dog, you can cook it in about a minute or so.

As a torture device, your suicide cord leaves a lot to be desired. If the torturer accidentally touches both bare wires he shocks himself, and worse, the path of electricity is up one arm, through the chest, and down the other arm (assuming he’s holding one wire in each hand). Shocks through the chest can be particularly deadly, since if the timing is just right, you can throw the heart out of rythm. Once you get the heart into a funky beat, it doesn’t tend to recover on its own, so unless someone is standing there with a portable defib unit and knows how to use it, the torture guy could be dead in a very short amount of time. Lamp cord is made of very flexible copper wire strands, so it would be very easy for someone trying to hold the insulated part to accidentally have the bare wire fold back and make contact with their skin.

Another problem (which is why I’m assuming the guy has a wire in each hand) is that if he accidentally touches the two wires together he just shorts out the circuit and blows the breaker.

I’ll pass on designing you a better torture device. I don’t mind explaining how electricity works, but making a functional torture device is a whole different ball game. Personally, I’d like to see the villian in your book attempt to torture his victim with a suicide cord, accidentally shock himself (while muttering a few choice curse words), then accidentally short the wires together and shut off power to the room. Then you can have him go to the plan B torture device, and do what you want from there.

Understood :slight_smile: I should have thought more before posting the second half of the question…obviously, you have no way of knowing that I’m going to use this information for purely fictional purposes.

Thank you for the information about electricity and the properties of the type of cord I was thinking of, though :slight_smile: I just might have her try to use the cord and get shocked, and have to think of something else real quick…it would be a moment of humor, at least :slight_smile:

Actually, at university, we used to cook dogs and brauts in about 20-30 seconds, attaching the wires to nails that were inserted into each end of the dog. (The exposed ends of the nails were coated in rubber to prevent shocking the cook.) Quite effective, until some schmuck pushed the nails in too far, where they made contact and shorted out the junction breaker. Fortunately, the authorities never figured out exactly which room caused the break, but that was the end of Thursday Night Cook-Ins.

Or better yet, have the subject disable the torturer a la “True Lies”:

Samir: Is there anything you’d like to tell me before we start?
Harry: Yeah: I’m going to kill you pretty soon. First I’m gonna use you as a human shield, then I gonna take that chisel and kill the guard with it. Then I was thinking about breaking your neck.
Samir: And how are you going to do all that?
Harry: You know my handcuffs?
Samir: Yes…
Harry: [Hold his hands up] I picked them.
Samir: Ohhhh…

Stranger

Disclaimer: I am writing this under the assumption the OP is telling the truth. The information found below can also help someone to avoid being electrocuted.

So say you’re a torturer and you want to shock someone by plugging a lamp cord into the wall and stripping the other ends of the two wires (to expose the copper conductors). How do you do it?

A fundamental question is this: is the person to be shocked already in contact with earth ground? In other words, is the person to be shocked standing barefoot on a damp concrete slab, touching a water pipe, standing barefoot in the dirt, laying in a bathtub filled with water, etc.?

If the person to be shocked is not in contact with earth ground, then you need to connect both conductors in the lamp cord to the person being shocked. One conductor, for example, could touch the person’s left hand, and the other conductor could touch the person’s right foot.

If the person to be shocked is in contact with earth ground, then you only need to connect one conductor in the lamp cord to the person being shocked. But here’s the important thing: you must use the right conductor. One conductor (“hot”) will shock the person, while the other (“neutral”) will have no effect.