And from the " Slut-Shaming Is The Way We Live, Deep In The Heart of Texas " Department...

Nah, the tube is empty. It’s all about the angle at which it’s held.

That’s an excellent point, thank you. It’s a little easier for me to think of it in terms of what I’ve experienced, and what other women have told me they’ve experienced… But it’s too easy to forget the number of male victims of sexual assault and violence, who face even more pressure to be silent and always keep it a dark, private secret.

These things really can literally happen to anyone… especially if there’s any sort of power imbalance. Being “ladylike” or not doesn’t really enter into it.

If anyone who wasn’t here in 2012 is a little confused as to what **VT **and **andros **are on about, let me enlighten you. Just so you know what kind of crazy you’re dealing with. You’re welcome.

There you go; this is what all this nonsense is really about.

He’s not really acting out of concern for women. He is simply using them to feed his desire to feel like a big, manly important man. And of course this requires treating women as though they are weak and defenseless incompetents who need not only his physical protection but also his sage, matter-of-fact instruction on how they should comport themselves in the world. Of course.

There is absolutely nothing new about this phenomenon. Traditional sexism is rooted in the idea that men can not see themselves as strong, capable, and necessary members of society if women fail to act subordinate to them. Just as soon as a woman has the audacity to act as freely and as fearlessly as a man, it’s taken as a threat, a rebuke of masculinity.

To go back to the subject of this OP, is there any wonder why quotes like that get plastered on the walls? It’s a way to plant those seeds of insecurity into young women just as soon as their identities are forming. Gotta get them focused on conforming to the expectations of men early in life, because if you don’t, they’ll do crazy things like aspire to be President.

As a male victim of sexual abuse while I was in school, I thank you for writing this. There is another thread in here that I started where I am being eviscerated by some Dopers who accuse me of making all of it up.

I am 56. I have been carrying this around my entire life and yet obviously I would rather keep the person’s name and school district private then be banned immediately for naming him.

Funny how the world works, isn’t it? :frowning:

“Greetings, fair maiden! Your prayers have been answered, for I, Starving Artist, am here to rescue you. When I saw you approached by that ne’er-do-well, I ascertained his nefarious intentions by the way he twirled his mustache!”

“What? That was my husband. He doesn’t have any facial hair.”

“Fear not, comely and innocent young lass! Though the steam engine quickly approaches, I shall now loose you from your bonds and carry you to safety!”

“I’m getting into my car now.”

“Wait! You forgot my kiss of gratitude!”

what goes on the boy’s side of the hall/locker room?

Well, the thing is that this WASN’T in the girl’s locker room or girls’ side of the hall. It was in a general hallway but told ALL the students that the female students’ behavior dictates the male student’s behavior.

Quotes on walls are pretty stupid as a rule in my opinion. Just teach them ALL to show respect to all humans.

If you are talking about the thread I think you are, then, as I said in that thread, you completely misunderstood what people were saying. You said something factually wrong, and someone said “don’t listen to him” about that factually wrong thing. They weren’t saying that you were never abused.

You said that children always know when they are being abused. But they don’t. One poster in particular was upset because he himself had also been abused. Not even all adults realize they were being abused until later: it can be lack of knowledge, denial, gaslighting, etc.

That’s all. No one was saying you were not abused.

And, in fact, if I ever fucking catch anyone doing that, I will lay into them like you wouldn’t believe. I promise.

Wonderful! :slight_smile:

I picture Starving Artist then shuffling back into the house amidst the cloud of car exhaust and tire smoke to relive those halcyon pre-liberal days of proper courtship by watching old Popeye cartoons.

I dunno, he sounds pretty woke here:

Shame about the pig-ugly clothes, though.

NM, too petty even for me.

*I’m always winning
'cause I protects wimmings,
I’m Popeye the Sailor Man
Toot! Toot!
*

This doesn’t even work! You’re missing a syllable… among other things.

Yeah, you’re right. How about:

I keeps on winning
‘cause I protects wimmings,
I’m Popeye the Sailor Man
Toot! Toot!

the 'cause it said during the breath