I’m surprised the OP was posted today. I was sure it was going to be from like August 2016 or something.
Perhaps the word was supposed to be “lardable”.
The thing is, that’s not how that word gets used. If you say a thing is “laudable” it means that YOU think it’s worthy of praise. If you intend it to mean “likely to be popular with Trump supporters”, or “intended to elicit a cheer from a partisan audience”, then you’re going to cause some confusion among your readers.
He doesn’t have to run, does he?
Trump will, presumably, reply that he’s going to make Mexico pay for the wall; I say this because he often says that even when no one is asking about it — which I figure means it’d be his go-to response if someone actually, y’know, brings it up.
So picture it: one candidate says Mexico won’t pay for the wall; and Trump, with all of the upbeat confidence of a man who honestly believes it, cheerfully insists that, yeah, Mexico is going to pay for it. He says that the way he said stuff in 2016.
You saw what happened when Trump just, like, said stuff in 2016, right? So figure we see one person keep saying that Mexico won’t pay for it, and figure we also see Trump keep saying that Mexico will: you say that Trump convinced dummies the first time; why do you figure his act would flop the second time?
He can do what he’s threatened and revoke NAFTA and push for harsher trade terms with Mexico, or enact tariffs. Look at his latest with China to see how he thinks (to use that term loosely) and see how he expects to ‘pay’ for the wall. Basically, he expects at some point that Mexico will cave and negotiate a deal that has them pay for (or seem to pay for) his stupid wall.
I think those who are saying Trump was lying about the wall all along or never intended to build it haven’t been paying attention. I think he was serious about it. Divorced from reality, lying about the cost (in both upfront and recurring, as well as the hidden costs of his ridiculous trade war…if he even understands enough about trade to get the ramifications himself) and probably expecting it to line his own pockets directly or indirectly, but he was dead serious about building the stupid thing.
Yes, exactly. The folks who think that Mexico will ‘pay’ for the wall directly with no cost to Americans are deluded and not seeing the hidden costs such a thing would entail. Hell, I doubt a lot of Trump haters really understand what the various trade wars he is kicking off will cost them. I seriously doubt Trump himself has a clue what he’s unleashing…and he probably doesn’t give a crap in any case. Look at his collection of broken deals and shafted shareholders and investors to see his level of give a shit for anyone going along with his brilliant schemes.
Whether he actually pushes the trade war button all the way (and based on China I’d say he will), he will continue to try and have that stupid wall built, just like he will do whatever he can to win some sort of legacy wrt North Korea, even if that means war.
Oh sure, there’s a segment of the population who will agree with anything Trump tells them. He could tell them he did built the wall - and that it’s visible from the moon - and they would believe him.
But the number of believe-anything followers isn’t that large. Some of the people who voted for Trump in 2016 are going to notice that he hasn’t done what he promised. And a few who voted for him to “send a message” are going to decide he’s just another useless politician and won’t vote for him a second time.
Trump barely won in 2016. And I can’t see anyone who voted against Trump in 2016 is going to turn around and vote for him in 2020. So he can’t afford to lose any voters.
If they proposed a reasonable tariff, it would work. But it would take quite some time. They send about 25Billion. A very reasonable 5% tariff would net $120million a year. However, that is just about enuf to maintain a sea-to sea wall, the idea of which is ridiculous. So, if they only built up say the 20% or so of the wall which is wanted/needed for drug interdiction, then the 5% could do it, reasonably.
Trump will turn the lack of a wall into a rallying cry in the '20 election. That mean old Deep State is keeping us all from having it and I need four more years to get it done and protect decent Americans from the Brown Menace. Who don’t even speak American.
Maybe the problem is more along the lines of disbelieve anything? Stormy daniels was a liar, the mainstream news lies about Trumps lies, everyone is lying besides Trump except when he lies to make the liberals cry?
Really the problem is the Republican party cannot nominate anyone besides Trump again for 2020. They have to pick this shitbag or they split the vote. Unless, somehow, the various criminal investigations find something truly compelling, enough to make 2/3 of Senators including a bunch of Republicans vote against their own interests.
So all the negative press and flagrant violations of everything a President should stand for will matter when election day rolls around in one way. Joe Sixpack will never vote for a Democrat - but he might feel so disgusted he doesn’t leave his recliner to vote Republican straight ticket again.
This is the crux of the issue. I suppose that in the very best scenario involving a booming economy and fulfilling lots of conservative promises, a tiny percentage of voters who didn’t vote last time might come out to vote for him, but I’m assuming that the number of people who voted for Hillary in 2016 but will go orange in 2020 will be in the five digits if not lower, whereas the number who will flip or not vote at all the other way will be larger.
If I were Vicente Fox I wouldn’t be so smug. There is no pride in running a country in which the cartels are so dangerous and the economic prospects are so poor that millions of your citizens decide to leave.
So do you think a shithole country like Mexico is going to pay for the wall, and enjoy it?
More are returning to Mexico than are coming into the US. Try to keep up.
I don’t think insulting nations like that is typically productive. It might be called for at times though. But to answer your question, no.
That’s great. But the net migration is still quite large.
Maybe he just doesn’t like his country taken for granted. Regardless of the problems Mexico faces, they are still our neighbors and it is in our interests, despite what Donald and his supporters think, to treat them with courtesy and respect.
OK Republicans- informal poll! 2 questions. Do you think the wall is a good idea? If the wall is ever built, who do you think pays for it?
I think the wall would be a waste of money. And I think the USA would pay for it .
Well that I agree with.
As god as my witness, I was positive the OP’s spellchecker messed up “laughable”.