And now: What about all those cops turning their backs on De Blasio?

Some boards have a filter that “bleeps it out” if you spell it correctly, and I can’t be bothered keeping records of which ones do, or don’t

I just figured you were Roman.

It’s jvst a evphemism, affected to maintain some faint semblance of propriety.

Well said. Like it or not, the appeal should not have been withdrawn and De Blasio made a big mistake by doing so.

Well I don’t know about that. It would mean that he would have to defend a policy he did not start, that he does not agree with, that he stopped as soon as he took office and that he always said was unconstitutional. How do you go forward with an appeal like that?

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What does the term “unreasonable” mean to you? Do you believe that “reasonable” searchers and seizures are permitted? Who do you believe settles the issues of what is “reasonable” or not? The legislatures? The courts? How is it possible that Terry Stops were ever permitted?

(p.s. Sorry for the late reply. I was enjoying a little “me and the fam” time in Texas. :smiley: )

I would have let the case run it’s course but I’m not the mayor of NYC. Would you have stopped this particular appeal if’n you was da mayor?

If he was to go on a mass firing spree. For what? They were doing what they felt was right. Like a protest…So…Whats up.

… because?

I do know about that. It’s a fucking idiotic position. Stop-and-frisk was not some massive voter-passed initiative that DeBlasio arrogantly nullified. It was a policy put in place by the previous administration. DeBlasio was elected while vocally stating his opposition to the policy.

It would be like saying that Mittens (had he won in 2012) would have been obligated to continue the defense of ACA simply because Obama did so back in the day.

I think you’ve said this a couple of times previously, but you have never said what you believe would be the point. Let’s say everything goes as you expect/hope and the Supreme Court finds stop and frisk as practiced by the NYPD in the past to be constitutional. What exactly is different from today? The Supreme Court ( or any other court ) is never going to say that deBlasio must return to that policy and deBlasio is never going to implement that policy on his own- he has always been against it. Why in the world would anyone expend resources to defend a policy they don’t agree with and have no intention of implementing ?

I think it might not even be legal to defend it in that case.

CMC fnord!

I prefer completed investigations (and court cases) as opposed to investigations that are dropped half way thru because of politics.

There were legitimate legal questions concerning stop and frisk which also appears to, possibly, affect Terry Stops. De Blasio’s action didn’t stop Terry Stops but the case could have provided a better understanding of which police action is, or is not, constitutional.

De Blasio’s political problems with the NYPD appears to have begun during his mayoral campaign in 2013 (maybe earlier). The fact that the judge was kicked off the case after making her ruling didn’t help De Blasio’s personal war with the NYPD. De Blasio’s decision to drop the appeal could be construed as further evidence that De Blasio does not appreciate or approve of the NYPD, depending on which of the three sides you’re on (pro-De Blasio, pro-police, or interested in finding out what actually happened before deciding which of the first two options you lean towards).

Now De Blasio has to make nice, or pretend to make nice, with the NYPD.

I think De Blasio is an ass but I think that is idiotic. You think he should have expended money and city resources to defend a policy he has always been diametrically opposed to? That makes no sense.

I understand why De Blasio didn’t want to continue with the appeal.

It’s my personal opinion that any mayor of NY should have, once the case was filed, let the appeal run it’s course. It appears that De Blasio’s choice to drop the appeal lead to even more hard feeling between De Blasio and the NYPD. Now De Blasio has to kiss some union ass to make up for the poor decisions he’s had made over the last year and a half (at least since his campaign began?).

Perhaps, but he may be rescued by the cops union and their positively brilliant public relations plan to make themselves universally loathed.

I suspect he’s more interested in kissing the voters asses than the police union’s - especially since many ( most?) of the members can’t vote in NYC since they aren’t residents.Although I find it interesting that stopping the appeal because he’s opposed to the policy is a political reason and continuing it to kiss the union’s ass is somehow not political in your view.

And even most people who are in favor of the appeal would be pissed if all that money was spent for no reason. For some reason, an awful lot of people think it the city appeals and the court rules in favor of stop and frisk , deBlasio will have to implement the policy. But he doesn’t have to and he won’t.

Crappy Union Leadership:
PBA’s Patrick Lynch spurs yelling, shoving among cops over NYPD-City Hall feud

Tasers should have been deployed.

There is nothing I wouldn’t give to watch a roomful of cops having a taser battle.

Shocking. Positively shocking.