And so the "code words" begin.

[levdrakon]

@Nzinga_Seated

Nig? The word is Nigger. Nigger! niggerniggerniggerniggernigger! Ha! It’s fun!

Well, no. “Nig” was short for “nigga.” Do you have any hope of ever belonging to a multi-racial/ethnic/cultural peer group? If so, do you plan on fractioning your peer group into those who are really in your peer group and those who are not and pretending you’re actually in a peer group? Every peer group I’ve ever been in was able to use the exact same language and not divided into Peer group, not peer group but pretending to be peer group.

We call that high school clique game playing.

[Koxinga]

@Nzinga_Seated

I freely admit that I feel a certain ‘tension’ when white folks say it.

The ‘niggerniggernigger’ is in homage to a comedian that I love alot. Sorry. No pent up rage. White people are going to have to accept that uttering that word doesn’t shred black folks to shreds inside the way it used to. Accept it.

Genuinely curious, then: why do you think that saying that word repeatedly is so funny, as opposed to saying “sandwich”?

[A_shameful_cracka]

@levdrakon

Well, no. “Nig” was short for “nigga.” Do you have any hope of ever belonging to a multi-racial/ethnic/cultural peer group? If so, do you plan on fractioning your peer group into those who are really in your peer group and those who are not and pretending you’re actually in a peer group? Every peer group I’ve ever been in was able to use the exact same language and not divided into Peer group, not peer group but pretending to be peer group.

We call that high school clique game playing.

What about the early-90s skate-rock band “Skatenigs”? I don’t remember them having any black members.

[Nzinga_Seated]

@Koxinga

Genuinely curious, then: why do you think that saying that word repeatedly is so funny, as opposed to saying “sandwich”?

It is funny because white folks get mad when we say it. Maybe you sort of have to hear the actual act, when Paul Mooney does it, to really get the joke.

[Koxinga]

@Nzinga_Seated

It is funny because white folks get mad when we say it.

Ah. So it is aggression, then.

[DudleyGarrett]

@Nzinga_Seated

It is funny because white folks get mad when we say it. Maybe you sort of have to hear the actual act, when Paul Mooney does it, to really get the joke.

Not mad, sad. And you’re automatically in my “do not associate with” group.

Oh well, since you thought it be funny to make me (as a white folk) mad, you probably don’t care anyway. So no harm done to you, I suppose.

[Nzinga_Seated]

@DudleyGarrett

Not mad, sad. And you’re automatically in my “do not associate with” group.

Oh well, since you thought it be funny to make me (as a white folk) mad, you probably don’t care anyway. So no harm done to you, I suppose.

Actually, yeah. Harm done to me. I hate that I come across as the kind of person you don’t want to associate with. I didn’t mean to laugh at all white people. Only the ones that wanted to hurt us with a word that doesn’t hold the same power anymore.

It bothers me that you think less of me; Koxinga, too. I do tend to get overly hype sometimes, about race issues. I’m gonna work on it, though.

[I_Love_Me_Vol.I]

RACIST GOPer: “Well, you’re pretty sure of yourself, ain’t ya, Barack? Barack. That’s a funny name for a nigger boy that comes from Chicago. What do they call ya up there??”

BARACK OBAMA: “They call me MISTER President!”

[Li_l_Pluck]

@I_Love_Me_Vol.I

BARACK OBAMA: “They call me MISTER President!”

PLEASE, oh, Universe, let it come to pass!

[OtakuLoki]

@Li_l_Pluck

OtakuLoki,

HUH?! Where in any of my posts did I assume, imply, or even outright state that you wanted to use the word “nigger”? That’s highly unlikely, sir, considering that you very clearly wrote–and I saw the first time around–“I have no desire to use the word”. Now, I know that there are people on the SDMB who sometimes have difficulty reading for comprehension, but I try really hard (and, I think, mostly successfully) to not be one of them.

I will, however, stand corrected if you can show me a post in this discussion, where I’ve addressed you or anything you’ve said, where I failed in that regard.

Well, back in post #120 you said:

I mean, really, is it that difficult to accept that one group of people can call themsevles what they want, and you can’t?

(emphasis added)

I interpreted that to mean you thought I wanted to go around calling people nigger and couldn’t. You say you didn’t mean it that way, and I accept that - but on first read through - it sure felt like I was being accused of wanting to use the word.

And how was my first response to you hostile? Granted, I did say, “I mean, really, is it that difficult blah-blah-blah,” and perhaps it is that which you interpreted as hostility. If that is that case, I assure you that my choice of words was meant less to convey hostility than beffudlement.

I guess I had my prickly suit on. I apologize for that.

[DianaG]

@DudleyGarrett

Not mad, sad. And you’re automatically in my “do not associate with” group.

Oh well, since you thought it be funny to make me (as a white folk) mad, you probably don’t care anyway. So no harm done to you, I suppose.

Okay, this is some bullshit, especially after this:

@DudleyGarrett

Are there any negative adjectives that can be applied to a black man by a white man that CAN’T be construed as racist?

As a rule, any insult that you’d also consider applying to a *white *man is fine, as insults go.

I have no patience for this “What, you people got everything you wanted, and now I’m oppressed because I can’t use the N word” shit.

[Koxinga]

@Nzinga_Seated

It bothers me that you think less of me; Koxinga, too. I do tend to get overly hype sometimes, about race issues. I’m gonna work on it, though.

Hi Nzinga, no no no no no, I don’t at all think less of you! I guess I’m showing that asinine analytical side of my nature that makes me look like I’m talking down to people when I don’t mean that at all.

I value hearing your perspective very much, because I know my own viewpoint is very limited and probably naive. And I hope I don’t ever catch myself disparaging or looking down on people’s right to use words the way they want to. But if I can understand why usage and culture has developed the way it has, maybe it can help me address some of my own blind spots about issues like race.

Again, sorry if I came across that way!

[I_Love_Me_Vol.I]

I don’t really suppose it’s necessary to mention it but my above post was paraphrased dialog from In the Heat of the Night. The link is to a .wav file site but it has the dialog in question in text. Strangely, I couldn’t find the entire quote on IMDB–only the "They call me MISTER Tibbs!" part–otherwise I would have linked to them.

[crowmanyclouds]

@Nzinga_Seated

… Maybe you sort of have to hear the actual act, when Paul Mooney does it, to really get the joke.

Here ya go, Nigger Nigger - Paul Mooney, (but I don’t think it’s gonna help :(, some folks just don’t get it and some simply don’t want to :mad:).

CMC +fnord!

[levdrakon]

@DianaG

As a rule, any insult that you’d also consider applying to a *white *man is fine, as insults go.

Isn’t this thread about the term “uppity” and how it can’t be used on a black the way it can against every non-black?

[Omega_Glory]

@Nzinga_Seated

My mileage varies like hell. I will never understand people telling me I can’t use nigga.

Can you understand why people wouldn’t be comfortable with it?

[DianaG]

@levdrakon

Isn’t this thread about the term “uppity” and how it can’t be used on a black the way it can against every non-black?

Find me an example of “uppity” being used to describe a white man. I can wait.

[levdrakon]

@DianaG

Find me an example of “uppity” being used to describe a white man. I can wait.

John Kerry: Uppity Rich Guy with a Superiority Complex

Ow, ow, that took 30 seconds.

You got nothing.

[DianaG]

Okay, you got that one. I personally have never encountered (until now) that word used to describe a white man.

[Li_l_Pluck]

@DianaG

Okay, you got that one. I personally have never encountered (until now) that word used to describe a white man.

And you’re not likely to encounter it often.

Trust me, the Southerners on this board know, as we live and breathe, what “uppity” *is most likely meant to imply *when it’s applied to black people. Especially by white, Southern congressmen.