Annoying spy movie crap

How the hell does a fight occur in a major world city that involves multiple people dead, multiple cars crashed, big amounts of property damage, and everyone just on like no big deal. Wouldn’t this be top worldwide news for days? Wouldn’t the spys involved get caught on video whether they want to or not, so why on earth would any country authorize something like this? You’d not only burn all the agents involved but now it is public knowledge you have agents.

I’m thinking of the Bourne series and Safe House.

Michael Westen has blown up half of Miami and nobody seems to have noticed.

Here. You need a pair of stronger suspenders for your disbelief.

Actually, if you want Annoying Spy Movie Crap, consider that in many of the James Bond movies, Bond was a “famous secret agent”, which is a ludicrous contradiction i n terms. Heck, even Diamonf Smuggler Tiffany Case knew who he was – and why in blue blazes would you expect her to?

And Bond left plenty of public destruction (if not outright carnage) in his wake, too.

Diplomatic immunity

That is why for half the movies I see, I envision an epilogue after the credits of “…and then the police finally showed up and arrested everybody.”

That said, didn’t the Bourne movies show that indeed many of the events were international news?

The secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

And we can ask George Zimmerman how realistic it is to be able to have even very brief gunfights without consequences.

Actually, in Casino Royale, Bond gets the third degree from M because he got in an extended gunfight that got caught on camera and ended up in the news. He lays relatively low for most of the rest of the film.

Spy movies are not and never have been realistic, not are they required to be. “Realistic” is not a synonym for “good.”

If you want to see realistic spy drama, watch The Sandbaggers or MI5. Otherwise, stay away from fiction; you can’t handle it.

They used the red flashy thing?

I can’t believe I am going to say this but…it is a movie. :slight_smile:

You can’t handle the truth!

I remember Ronin came in for a lot of stick for this - the main characters are supposed to be top former secret agents, and they’re currently mercenaries so they’re presumably wanted men, but they (a) demolish a small French village (b) smash up a main road full of cars © cause the death of a world-famous skater (d) engage in vigorous mayhem. And to top it all they look like famous actors!

By coincidence there was a shooting incident just outside the Empire State Building today, and although the level of mayhem was relatively minor - this on the same day that Anders Breivik was sentenced - it still made the news here in the UK.

*"A fired women’s apparel designer shot dead a former colleague outside the Empire State Building in New York City before he was killed by police. Nine others were hit by bullets, some possibly fired by police, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. Those wounded suffered minor injuries and all were expected to survive.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly named the shooter as 53-year-old Jeffrey Johnson, who lived in Manhattan. His victim was 41 years old."*

As indeed did the possibly-not-espionage-related death of an MI6 analyst whose body was found locked in a suitcase. I’ve always assumed that, as other people have pointed out, spies have a certain amount of diplomatic immunity, but in real life they would get away with it once and only once. Like that CIA chap in Pakistan a while back who decided to gun down two people in a busy street in broad daylight. But then again in the reality of a film you could assume that the government can cover everything up or blame it on mass hallucinations.

e.g. “You did not see James Bond go by on a motorised hover-gondola. What you saw was the planet Venus”.

I’ve always just assumed that’s How Things Are In Miami–high speed chases on surface roads, shootouts in public, and spectacular explosions are just de rigeur. The news doesn’t even bother to mention them any more.

Alternatively, everyone is too busy staring at all the Beautiful People in Bikinis to notice? :smiley:

Personally, I believe that Burn After Reading is the most realistic spy movie ever made. :slight_smile:

“Most secret agents don’t tell every harlot from here to hanoi they’re secret agents!”
“Then why be one?”

Don’t you typically want a spy to be inconspicuous?

[Police Radio]Attention all units. We have a report of an explosion DynamaCorp Consumer Products and Missle Guidance Division office campus.

Suspect is described as the “hottest woman you’ve ever seen”, dressed in a red Armani miniskirt, wearing a bright blue wig and heavily armed with a rare Belgian machinegun and some form of small magnetic improvised explosive devices. Suspect is parkouring northwest along 14th street being pursued by 15 heavily armed men in BMW M5s and Ducati motorcycles dressed head to toe in black Armani and wearing balaclavas.[/Police Radio]

Sheriff Pepper: “A secret agent? With *which *side?”

Venus was going by on a motorised hover-gondola?!
I just can’t fathom the gravity of such a situation!

Now that requires covering up!
If nobody else does, the Fashion Police should nail all of them!


Somewhere in a lonely hotel room
There’s a guy starting to realize
That eternal fate has turned its back on him.
It’s 2:00 AM
. --Kooymans (Golden Earring)
. Twilight Zone

Yeah, apart from being arrested when a careening fuel truck exploded at the rollout of a new jet airliner, you’d hardly know he was there.

Well, I wouldn’t argue that it wasn’t a no-holds-barred, adrenaline-fueled thrill ride. But there is no way you can perpetrate that amount of carnage and mayhem and not incur a considerable amount of paperwork.