Another AMA for the (not so) Amateur Porn Director

Briefly in the 1980s when Tom Byron was first getting in the business, he was cast in such scenes a few times (look up “Private Teacher”). But you’re right it seems it’s not that easy to cast any more.

Went to Google and entered bisexual threesome porn. And the hits just keep on coming. (Yes, pun deliberate.)

Same thing. Google. Old woman young man porn. Lots of hits that seem exactly what you want.

I didn’t watch everything that came up. (They never stop in a thread like this, do they?) But the couple of seconds I did see made me wonder if you’re not describing what you want precisely.

That was pretty much the entire career of 80s star Cara Lott. She pretty much owned that genre, and I don’t know that she made any films where the guys didn’t have sex with each other.

yes but who gets more work? I mean sure kayden kross, Bonnie Rotten and others dont do IR…or at least ahvent yet many that dont do it will and others well hey they have every right to discriminate particularly on with whom they have sex. LA Direct is a very high end agency and their girls tend to get booked by companies like Wicked Pictures that still sell content to cable TV and PPV channels…many of these channels will not buy interracial content so the girls managers may tell them to hold off doing IR until that work becomes replaced by other work where it isnt an issue.

If I had any problem whatsoever finding large amounts of interracial porn I might agree with you but as I said its probably the single largest niche.

Bitching because a particular performer refuses to work with a different race seems to be more about an issue with the performer than with the adult industry in general…I see one color…GREEN…

hey im an old guy I will be the first to admit it…I tell my nieces and nephews that getting old isn’t for pussies…and anyone nearing 60 like I am knows thats true… but all that said I still dont like hairy buzzards…god bless the trend towards keeping them shaved and neat…and for the record…yes I shave mine too

yer right it is a bit mixed and i tend to combine when I should separate things. First in porn valley you have a large number of performers working together on a daily basis, everyone works with each other and if everyone works every other day its easy to see how a highly contagious STD can completely flood the talent pool relatively quickly. In porn valley they test for Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, HIV, Syphilis and Trichomonaiasis every 14-30 days HPV, and others arent tested for almost everyne in porn vally has herpes…it comes with the territory and honestly even two week testing isnt good enough because so many performers escort these days and they have been conditioned to believe that antone with a two week old STD test is safe to do bareback…so they do…as a result at any given time more than half of the performers in Porn Vally have some STD other than herpes and often they have it in places where we dont test for it oral and rectal gonorrhea are fairly common for example. And you are correct that there is no routine test en can do for HPV.

On the other side of the country you have me…I have a very small talent pool that ONLY works for me…I shoot every couple of weeks on average but more importantly I thouroughly screen the people I shoot maleand female, I do require a routine battery of tests that test for the same things plus HDV-2 (Herpes) but not nearly as frequently

My guys in particular are well known to me and have to jump through a lot of hoops to get invited to a shoot, that overall track record of negative tests over a number of years is a lot more important to me than a single test. Is my method fool proof…of course not but I do what I can to reasonable minimize any possible exposure including making condoms available which Porn valley doesnt do. in the case of gangbangs and specially anal I strongly encourage the use of condoms.

Good questions…

  1. usually no but yes sometimes

2 I have no idea but I would say in the area of 40 pages of dialogue

  1. see above

  2. I have and I have. I have worked on many mainstream projects including one that won an academy award and one that won an Emmy. I have also done music videos and Tv commercials and worked as an actor. Am I good enough to helm something along the lines of The Godfather…no I dont think so but then given the right budget I dont think theres anything I couldnt do by hiring the right people to bring my vision to life.

Your three way 2 bi guys and a girl has been done but there isnt a lot of it…for one the demand inst there and for another there are a lot of girls in the biz these days that wont work with bi males. searching sites like CD Universe would turn up a fair amount of results.

older women younger guys I can actually understand why this is hard to find…its difficult to shoot, finding guys in their early 20s who have the control required is actually difficult…if you look at the male porn talent pool theres a reason most of them are pushing 30 or older, thats because they can get the job done…time really is money.

I would look to specific websites for this content specially what we call in the biz “Vanity sites” or a site where the girl owns and is the star of the site something like Lady Sonia comes to mind as a good possibility (I would also note that while Jenna Jameson is considered the pinnacle of success for women in porn lady Sonia could likely buy and sell jenna many times over…as could wifey…thats where the REAL money in porn is.)

and i COMPLETELY agree with you on MILFs I realize that an 18 year old can be a MILF that isnt exactly what the genre implies…for that niche Moms Do Porn would likely be a good site

Sorry if this has already been answered…

I’m sure it varies, but generally how much do the directors, well, direct the action? Are they giving a lot of instructions while the cast is doing their thing? “OK, now you turn over, and you move six inches to the left!” Or do they just kind of give the performers some general guidelines before shooting starts and then let them have at it?

Are there a lot of retakes and cut material? For, say, a twenty minute scene, how much actual film gets shot?

That depends a LOT on what we are shooting…if theres a script and a particular look or feel that a scene or a movie should have a director pays a LOT of attention because it is our job to get it right.

OTOH When I shoot amateurs I usually shoot an amateur girl with a guy that has some experience, he will know how to keep the shot open and pace the scene, in that case I dont direct much and the cameramans job is to get the shot without interuppting the action because i want her to forget that the camera is there and get off on the sex. That wont happen if I am constantly barking orders

typically i get an hours worth of footage for a 15 min scene.

Why don’t these channels buy interracial porn, especially since you note that interracial sells very well and is a big chunk of the porn market?

Ask them I have no idea…apparently they feel it wont do well with their viewers…I should note that in this day and age of the internet skinemax and othe adult channels dont make near the money they used to and as a result they dont buy as much or pay as much for what they do buy…its the main reason that Vivid no longer releases features…only celeb sex tapes and the occasional amateur series from ex Saigon Kick drummer Phil Varone

That’s interesting to know. It sounds as if that business model is the way to go. The performer owning the site and therefore having an incentive to produce a quality product. I also assume if the owner is the star then this cuts down on production costs.

btw if you ever find yourself a northern English female performer to work with I encourage you to get her to talk immensely dirty. We want northern English girls effing and blinding! That is a niche I would pay good money for.

They need encouragement?

Plenty of homegrown content. I can heartily recommend Ben Dover’s “Lewd in Liverpool”, but I can understand that you might not like it as Ben tends to talk as much as the girls do - and you either love him or hate him.

Do performers ever fall in love?

Does an onscreen sex performance ever turn into real lovemaking?

At what point would this fictional hypothetical guy find his fantasy start to fall apart?

Guy amasses an IMMENSE amount of personal wealth. He decides, “Hell, I am so rich I have just gonna do what I want to do with my life and not care what anyone thinks!” He decides he wants to be a porn king. He starts up his own production company deciding he’s going to star in every shoot. He is so wealthy that he can operate at a loss, this production company never has to be financially successful. He loves having a variety of sex partners and now that he’s wealthy he’s going to start living the dream.

Maybe much of the time he wants to make the kind of porn where the guy is holding the camera and he expects to have his chosen co-stars show up and they’ll be alone together. Or maybe he’s got a crew and he just doesn’t mind having sex in front of them- or maybe having sex in front of the crew is an added turn on. Again, his production company doesn’t have to be financially successful, so at the end of a day it may be decided that none of the footage is useable (he’s blocking the best angles, or in the handheld scenes he just decides to put the camera down and forget about it). He can also afford to pay his co-stars more than they are accustomed to, so as to smooth over the lack of professionalism on his part. Maybe he’ll even want to book paid “rehearsals” then never bother with actually shooting.

Why is he doing this instead of hiring prostitutes?
In his porn king fantasy, he believes that when he sees a porn actress that he really wants to have sex with all he has to do is find her booking info and book her for a shoot and he’s got exactly who he was fantasizing about. He imagines himself putting together very elaborate fantasies that are specific to the ages of the women, their features, the sex acts he wants, the number of partners he wants at once then putting out a synopsis for casting and being able to book women to be the exact fantasy he wanted. He imagines himself scrolling through photos of porn actresses to see who strikes his fancy on any given day then booking her for a shoot.

In his fantasy, his porn king status grows a reputation for himself that he believes will have the regular round of professionals as well as aspiring up and comers hoping for the chance to work with him because it’s an easy shoot (he doesn’t care if he gets good footage) and he overpays.
If the guy’s rich enough, doesn’t care about social stigma, and can afford to lose money, is he going to get to joyously live out his fantasy?

Or will he soon enough come up against a harsh reality check?

Oddly it happens more than ya think specially with amateurs…I try not to date the girls I shoot but it has happened and on more than one occasion turned into a relationship that lasted longer than a gallon of milk in the fridge (thats a long time for porn relationships LOL)

generally it doesnt fall apart at all totally possible except one small fly in the ointment most agents and performers will want to see you site and or copies of things you have released commercially in the past…easy enough to get around in your scenario…put up a site…you dont care if it doesnt make money…

Hey Mike, welcome back! Good to see you again! I will never forget your comment that you could solve the problems in the Middle East with a bukkake. (And if you can ever round up enough Jewish and Arab porn actors I propose you make just such a movie- the Peace Bukkake!)

Half serious gripe about porn here. What is the deal with leather couches? I like women wearing leather and when I try to search for it most of the results are “look at her getting fucked on this sexy leather sofa!” as if the audience is fapping to the furniture! If a scene is hot I don’t care if they’re doing it on a leather couch, a beat up old chesterfield from the 70’s or the stained felt of a pool table. But those leather couches are advertised like they’re the granite countertops in house hunting shows. Is this intentional for marketing purposes?

Do you think mainstream will ever go porn? What I mean by that is that there is really no reason why porn shouldn’t have popular music in it rather than bow-chicka-wow-wow. Lana Del Rey’s “Fucked My Way Up to the Top” would be perfect for a porn film but I feel like the rights people would say no way. Same with advertising. Where did she get that leather skirt that she’s getting laid in right now? Why, at the Gap of course! That might be taking it a little far but at the same time I can’t stand blurred logos.

I mentioned to you last time that I was interested in the logistics of creating a production company and I still am. However, I have a friend who is convinced that if I ever did try it, organized crime would show up on my doorstep seconds later and demand a cut. Ron Jeremy’s autobiography (hilarious BTW) mentions a lot of getting hassled by the cops. Is there a natural overlap between porn and organized crime? Could a porn producer who wants nothing to do with criminals stay clear of them without consequence?

Any idea why racial stereotypes persist, particularly as regards Asian women? It seems to me like a lot of Asian-American porn is marketed as suckee fuckee me love you long time and that bugs me to no end whatsoever! I can tell from looking at a girl if she’s Asian, I don’t need the movie to be called Shrimp Fried Sluts or etc.

I’m sure I’ll think of more questions tomorrow but thanks for answering these ones!