Another Election Question

I understand how the US Electoral College works, and how the aggregate popular vote is meaningless.

I also understand that with the 9 swing states there were a number of combinations and scenarios that could have made Mitt Romney the next president, but has anyone figured out the least amount of votes, in certain key states, it would have taken for Romney to win?

For example if he got X more votes in Florida, and Y more votes in Ohio, Romney would have reached 270 and become president.

I realize it doesn’t change the outcome, and that President Obama took almost all of the swing states, but it would show how close this election really was, and how easily it could have gone the other way.

I think that the shortest path would be the differences in FL, VA, OH, and NH. Those 4 would have given Romney 270.

According to thisif Romney had won those 4 states he would have only have gotten to 255.

FL is 29 votes, VA is 13 votes, OH is 18 votes, and NH is 4 votes for a total of 64. Romney “currently” has 206, so those four states would have given him 270.

The map dolphinboy linked to didn’t award NC to Romney; NC is worth 15 electoral votes.

I stand corrected.

The FL difference was 73,858
The VA difference was 115,910
The OH difference was 103,481
The NH difference was 40,659

for a total of 333,908 votes difference out of a total of 120,214,156 votes cast, or 0.2777%.

Or half that if you assume you’re changing voters’ minds rather than motivating the stayed-at-homes. But are those four states the ‘cheapest’ way to get the extra EVs? Maybe winning two other states would take less than getting FL or VA.

It’s only a valid question if it’s a sort of post mortem. If it’s a strategy sort of thing…that horse is out of the barn.

How do these numbers compare to previous elections? Is a quarter percent typical or not?

Well it was a few hundred votes in 2000

I don’t think it really means that much as an ex-post-facto measure. In any presidential election there are going to be close states, and switching some small number of those will change the outcome. As fumster points out, it 2000 the “small number” of states was one.

Conversely you could ask, “what is the largest number of votes that could be switched from Obama to Romney *without *changing the result?” The answer would be the sum of Obama’s margin (less one vote) in each of the blue state. Without bothering to do all the math, that’s at least 20% of the electorate of California, so many millions of votes that Obama could have done without.

Does that mean Obama’s win was crazy-secure? Of course not. It’s just post-facto trivia.

The largest number of votes you could switch and maintain an Obama victory is much more than that. First you switch all states he lost to 100% Romney. Then you switch several selected states he won (probably OH NH VA FL) to 100% Romney. Finally you switch the remaining states he carried down to a one vote margin. And that may not even be the biggest switch you could make.

I’d predict that you could construct scenarios in which you could win the electoral college with < 30% of the popular vote even assuming equal percentage turnout in all states. This involves winning all the small states which get a disproportionate number of electoral votes. If you let me adjust turnout, it’s theoretically possible to win the election with 11 votes. Simply carry California (55), Texas (34), New York (31), Florida (27), Pennsylvania (21), Illinois (21), Ohio (20), Michigan (17), New Jersey (15), North Carolina (15), and Georgia (15) 1-0 and lose the other states with no votes.

In any case this calculation has been done for some past elections here:
http://www.mit.edu/~mi22295/elections.html

Switching 445912 votes in 2008 gives it to McCain

57787 gives it to Kerry in 2004 (the actual switch is in NM IA and CO. He needs 59301 to just win OH which is a bit more).

269 in FL gives it to Gore in 2000
575515 in 1996 gives it to Dole
Even in the blowout year 1988, it only takes 527766 votes to switch the win to Dukakis. This is less than 2% of the votes cast.

Interestingly it shows you have to switch 5 states to Nixon from Kennedy though I seem to recall a “well-known” meme that the election was stolen for Kennedy by switching the IL vote to him. If you switch IL to Nixon, he still only has 247 electoral votes to 290 for Kennedy (DC had no vote then)

This question (or its various hijacks) caught my interest, so I did some tinkering. Without changing the voter turnout, but assuming we can adjust individual votes as needed, the key to winning the election with the lowest possible percentage of the popular vote lies in winning the states with the most powerful voters, i.e. the fewest voters per elector.

So, I summed the popular vote counts for each state, and divided by that state’s number of electoral votes, producing the following “voter power” rankings (from most to least powerful):


State			Total votes	Electoral votes	Voters per elector
Alaska			220596		3		73532
District of Columbia	243348		3		81116
Wyoming			245785		3		81928.33333
Vermont			297274		3		99091.33333
North Dakota		319825		3		106608.3333
Hawaii			429494		4		107373.5
Rhode Island		436853		4		109213.25
South Dakota		363695		3		121231.6667
West Virginia		661643		5		132328.6
Delaware		413844		3		137948
Nebraska		765083		5		153016.6
Utah			920384		6		153397.3333
New Mexico		771356		5		154271.2
Montana			479386		3		159795.3333
Idaho			649653		4		162413.25
Nevada			1011105		6		168517.5
Arkansas		1055112		6		175852
New Hampshire		705874		4		176468.5
Maine			710738		4		177684.5
Arizona			2041519		11		185592.6364
Kansas			1131244		6		188540.6667
Oklahoma		1332019		7		190288.4286
California		10508184	55		191057.8909
Mississippi		1213035		6		202172.5
Texas			7962799		38		209547.3421
New York		6186864		29		213340.1379
South Carolina		1921363		9		213484.7778
Tennessee		2438431		11		221675.5455
Connecticut		1562187		7		223169.5714
Kentucky		1796736		8		224592
Alabama			2064699		9		229411
Washington		2802117		12		233509.75
Indiana			2602883		11		236625.7273
New Jersey		3374407		14		241029.0714
Georgia			3877038		16		242314.875
Oregon			1697276		7		242468
Maryland		2475956		10		247595.6
Louisiana		1988576		8		248572
Illinois		5091061		20		254553.05
Iowa			1563943		6		260657.1667
Colorado		2408844		9		267649.3333
Missouri		2744935		10		274493.5
Pennsylvania		5596499		20		279824.95
Massachusetts		3128134		11		284375.8182
Virginia		3747858		13		288296.7692
Florida			8459112		29		291693.5172
Minnesota		2921173		10		292117.3
Michigan		4717728		16		294858
Ohio			5368334		18		298240.7778
North Carolina		4499039		15		299935.9333
Wisconsin		3055484		10		305548.4


If Obama were to win the top 32 states on that list (Alaska through Alabama) by one vote, and every other state went entirely to Romney, Obama would win the election with just 25,430,095 votes — or 20.68% of the total.

Interestingly, that’d actually give him 273 electoral votes, so he might be able to do even better if you switch out one of the more heavily-populated states. I’d wager you could get it under 20%, but I’ve procrastinated long enough with this, so I’ll leave that task as an exercise for the reader.

The simplest improvement you could make would be to drop one of the 3-vote states (presumably Montana, the largest of them), leaving him at exactly 270. Though I won’t guarantee that there isn’t some better option out there.

…wow. Yeah, that’d work, wouldn’t it? Even considering we’re in GQ, I owe you one for the tact in that correction; I was due at least a 4 on the snark scale. :slight_smile:

If you look at the list of states in order of percentage points for Obama as seen here, you’ll see that Colorado was the tipping point, which works in both directions. So, let’s say there were just enough people in FL, VA, OH, and CO who switched votes to tip them for Mitt, the number needed would be 203,178, which is half the difference in votes in each state plus one. (But keep in mind that’s using numbers where final numbers are not yet verified due to stuff like absentee and mail in ballots).

So, if Mitt had convinced the right 203,178 people to switch votes, he’d be President-Elect right now. Alternatively, if he couldn’t convince them to switch votes, he’d have to convince the right distribution of 406,352 eligible voters in those states who didn’t vote, to have gotten out to vote for him.

Of course, with such close results, we’d be counting and recounting for a month.

Colorado may have been closer percentage-wise, but NH has far fewer voters, meaning far fewer votes the Mittster would have to flip. I still contend that for this exercise, NH is the state to use.